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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #75 on: July 26, 2010, 06:31:04 PM »
She called her grandfather herself; I insisted on it. He was grumpy but he couldn't really do anything about it. I think it's important for her, as unfair as the situation is, to have to deal with it straight up. She could either go to work or she could call her grandfather; I wouldn't do it for her.

I'm sorry I left out the squicky details about the bed being remade and the items being found in his bedroom. Ugh.



 


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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #76 on: July 26, 2010, 06:38:43 PM »
I think it's asking a bit much of her to expect her to interact for three days with someone who's openly accused her of breaking into his house, drinking his booze, and ahem, being in his bedroom and bed. I wouldn't keep working for someone who accused me of that, either.

Okay, we can disagree on that.  I thought it was actually her grandfather (who had done nothing wrong) who she worked for, so I might be confused on that point. 

I definitely wouldn't tell her to lie to him and say it's about dance team--that just seems incredibly unprofessional to not plan ahead with her dance schedule, and I can't imagine her getting decent reference out of quitting suddenly and leaving them in the lurch like that.

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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #77 on: July 26, 2010, 06:51:05 PM »
I think it's asking a bit much of her to expect her to interact for three days with someone who's openly accused her of breaking into his house, drinking his booze, and ahem, being in his bedroom and bed. I wouldn't keep working for someone who accused me of that, either.

Okay, we can disagree on that.  I thought it was actually her grandfather (who had done nothing wrong) who she worked for, so I might be confused on that point. 

I definitely wouldn't tell her to lie to him and say it's about dance team--that just seems incredibly unprofessional to not plan ahead with her dance schedule, and I can't imagine her getting decent reference out of quitting suddenly and leaving them in the lurch like that.

I believe that she does work for her grandfather, but her Uncle also works in the same place.

Balletmom, I'm really sorry that this happened.  Your brother is being a total idiot about it -- if anyone is in denial, it is him.
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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #78 on: July 26, 2010, 08:55:53 PM »
Thanks, Art. ]

Surianne, my brother is the general manager, but my father is owner and head of the company. He offered DD the job and set the terms. I told my brother today that given the way he felt, it was obviously best to call it quits on all accounts, and that DD would call our father and tell him personally. My father doesn't come into the office very often. . H

Oh, as a side note, we did tell my father about the time she would need off for dance team camp, and he completely forgot about it. He's getting on a bit in age and doesn't always remember or understand what it's like for teens--it's been close to 30 years since he parented one. Even then, his memory today doesn't always correlate with what actually happened.  ;)

DD told her grandfather that she had fallen short of her required dance hours for the summer and needed to make them up. It wasn't a great choice, but dragging my father into the situation would have made a bad thing even more of a nightmare. I can just see my father calling a family meeting--or worse, siding with Brother without hearing us out. I haven't slept well for three days now just trying to find the best way out of this.

Does anyone really think that telling a seventy-something grandfather that your uncle thinks you got drunk and had relations in his bedroom, and therefore you want to quit your job, because  you're really innocent, is a good choice?

Maybe in someone else's family that would be a good choice, but I guarantee you in mine it would take this to a whole new level of nightmare.










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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #79 on: July 26, 2010, 09:03:52 PM »
Does anyone really think that telling a seventy-something grandfather that your uncle thinks you got drunk and had relations in his bedroom, and therefore you want to quit your job, because  you're really innocent, is a good choice?

No, I don't anyway.  But, will your brother tell him that? 
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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #80 on: July 26, 2010, 09:06:09 PM »
Thanks, Art. ]
Maybe in someone else's family that would be a good choice, but I guarantee you in mine it would take this to a whole new level of nightmare.




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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #81 on: July 26, 2010, 09:13:14 PM »
Does anyone really think that telling a seventy-something grandfather that your uncle thinks you got drunk and had relations in his bedroom, and therefore you want to quit your job, because  you're really innocent, is a good choice?
That would really depend on the grandfather.
I know *some* grandfathers who would immediately take the side of their granddaughter and would give the uncle the what-for for accusing her of these things.
I also know some grandfathers who would take it very calmly and speak to the uncle as a "voice of reason".
With both the above types of grandfathers, I can see some merit in telling them what happened.

But of course, I do not know the grandfather in this particular situation. You do, balletmom, therefore, you are a better judge than we are. So if you say it's not a good idea, and that it would lead to a nightmare, then I take your word for it.

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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #82 on: July 26, 2010, 09:29:11 PM »
Does anyone really think that telling a seventy-something grandfather that your uncle thinks you got drunk and had relations in his bedroom, and therefore you want to quit your job, because  you're really innocent, is a good choice?

Is there a chance your brother will tell him this instead?

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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #83 on: July 26, 2010, 10:04:23 PM »
I don't think my brother will tell my dad, as he's very adamant about keeping most things private and separate from  my parents. I doubt he'll want to open this issue up to my father, although he may very well have implied it to the rest of the staff. He was definitely questioning the office manager today about having said anything to DD about "someone coming by the house to check."

The thing about ODD is, she has an incredibly memory for conversations and imitations of people. Over the years, I finally learned to believe her what she said said about people's attitudes. She can imitate her teachers so well that I can barely drive for laughing so hard, and she could imitate the ballet director so well it was like watching a possessed person. She's just really perceptive and good at remembering conversations. So if she remembered the office manager making a comment, it's more likely that she remembered it, and the office manager would either not remember or deny it because she needs her job.

I wish DD had the kind of grandfather who would take her side or at least listen calmly, but my father would just get embarrassed, and hold it against DD. He tends to favor YDD over ODD because YDD is outwardly much more "perfect" than ODD. It is very obvious to us (especially ODD, with her people skills) but I doubt that my father is even aware of it.

DH thinks it will all come out eventually, (thank you, Little Miss Ray of Sunshine) but I think that it won't, other than future issues such as ODD's wedding or college graduation, etc, which are too far off to worry about now.




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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #84 on: July 26, 2010, 11:03:28 PM »

Does anyone really think that telling a seventy-something grandfather that your uncle thinks you got drunk and had relations in his bedroom, and therefore you want to quit your job, because  you're really innocent, is a good choice?

Maybe in someone else's family that would be a good choice, but I guarantee you in mine it would take this to a whole new level of nightmare.

I think that there's something to be said for blunt honesty at times like this. ODD really has no reason to keep Uncle's secrets respect Uncle's desire for privacy, or to protect Grandad from embarrassment.

"Grandad, Uncle has accused me of breaking into his house, stealing his booze and ***** in his bed. Under the circumstances, I don't think I can work with him any more, and if you think I'm the sort of person who would do such a thing, I don't think I can work for you either."

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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #85 on: July 26, 2010, 11:16:07 PM »

Does anyone really think that telling a seventy-something grandfather that your uncle thinks you got drunk and had relations in his bedroom, and therefore you want to quit your job, because  you're really innocent, is a good choice?

Maybe in someone else's family that would be a good choice, but I guarantee you in mine it would take this to a whole new level of nightmare.

I think that there's something to be said for blunt honesty at times like this. ODD really has no reason to keep Uncle's secrets respect Uncle's desire for privacy, or to protect Grandad from embarrassment.

"Grandad, Uncle has accused me of breaking into his house, stealing his booze and ***** in his bed. Under the circumstances, I don't think I can work with him any more, and if you think I'm the sort of person who would do such a thing, I don't think I can work for you either."



I think this approach would just be inviting drama. Honestly, ODD quit professionally (yay that she did it herself! It's such an important lesson, I'm so glad she was able and willing to do it. Such a mature young lady!) and there's no need to suck another person into Uncle's little tiff.  There's no reason to start something with the grandfathers at all.  In fact, I think ODD is to be commended for being able to stick with her principles and minimize the drama at the same time.  :)
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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #86 on: July 27, 2010, 12:03:30 AM »

Does anyone really think that telling a seventy-something grandfather that your uncle thinks you got drunk and had relations in his bedroom, and therefore you want to quit your job, because  you're really innocent, is a good choice?

Maybe in someone else's family that would be a good choice, but I guarantee you in mine it would take this to a whole new level of nightmare.

I think that there's something to be said for blunt honesty at times like this. ODD really has no reason to keep Uncle's secrets respect Uncle's desire for privacy, or to protect Grandad from embarrassment.

"Grandad, Uncle has accused me of breaking into his house, stealing his booze and ***** in his bed. Under the circumstances, I don't think I can work with him any more, and if you think I'm the sort of person who would do such a thing, I don't think I can work for you either."



I think this approach would just be inviting drama. Honestly, ODD quit professionally (yay that she did it herself! It's such an important lesson, I'm so glad she was able and willing to do it. Such a mature young lady!) and there's no need to suck another person into Uncle's little tiff.  There's no reason to start something with the grandfathers at all.  In fact, I think ODD is to be commended for being able to stick with her principles and minimize the drama at the same time.  :)

I agree.  While I was originally in disagreement with the choice to quit, I think it showed maturity that she handled it herself.

Balletmom, since you were originally replying to me: I definitely didn't mean that your DD should tell her granddad about the issues with her uncle, just that if it were me I'd find it unprofessional to quit.  That was her choice to make, of course, not some random internet stranger's  :)  and I also didn't realize she'd be working closely with her uncle, or that she and her granddad had talked about dance troupe before (I was thinking it was a random lie that would make her look unreliable). 

Thanks for all the clarifying you've been doing, I do appreciate it!  Easy to get mixed up sometimes.

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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #87 on: July 27, 2010, 09:57:21 AM »
She called her grandfather herself; I insisted on it. He was grumpy but he couldn't really do anything about it. I think it's important for her, as unfair as the situation is, to have to deal with it straight up. She could either go to work or she could call her grandfather; I wouldn't do it for her.

I'm sorry I left out the squicky details about the bed being remade and the items being found in his bedroom. Ugh.

The bed details make it even clearer to me why bro might be in denial...because it's very possible that his GF had "company" in the house while he was gone and he doesn't want to face that. So he picks on a kid instead. Ugh.  :(

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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #88 on: July 27, 2010, 10:02:32 AM »
If the OP feels Granddad should not be told, then he shouldn't.  If the big boss was not a relative, would you air the real reason that you're quiting to him/her? 

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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #89 on: July 27, 2010, 11:57:05 AM »
She called her grandfather herself; I insisted on it. He was grumpy but he couldn't really do anything about it. I think it's important for her, as unfair as the situation is, to have to deal with it straight up. She could either go to work or she could call her grandfather; I wouldn't do it for her.

I'm sorry I left out the squicky details about the bed being remade and the items being found in his bedroom. Ugh.

The bed details make it even clearer to me why bro might be in denial...because it's very possible that his GF had "company" in the house while he was gone and he doesn't want to face that. So he picks on a kid instead. Ugh.  :(

I would think the adult GF would have changed the linens. This now sounds more and more like the work of teens.
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