Will you take a picture with my camera ?

[Granny Takes a Trip]

Yes, but why should the OP stop what she was doing to take a photo? You implied that it was her fault for not making nice, which is what people are objecting to. Good for her for not making nice, perhaps those entitled fools would think twice before bothering someone else.  I think if fewer people felt constrained to be polite to snowflakes, the world would actually be a better place.

People who ask others to take snapshots of them are "entitled fools?" That's what you think?

I believe Granny was referring specifically to the people in the original post who certainly proved themselves to be entitled at the very least by their follow-up behavior to the OP's refusal to take the photo.

Yes, exactly. Flora Louise, I am really confused as to why you are making excuses for them. ITA with Yvaine that they were also a bit rude to interrupt OP's reading, though they didn't show their true colours until OP refused them.

[Flora Louise]

What excuses?

[Granny Takes a Trip]

What excuses?

'I think she was embarrased, which is why she was rude.' You seemed to be almost blaming the OP for her rudeness, saying that if the OP had made nice and taken her picture, she wouldn't have been embarrased, and therefore wouldn't have been rude. I would class that as making excuses, or rather, misappropriating blame.

[Jan74]

What if she had agreed, it turned out to have been a scam, and then she ended up without her bag - would it still not be ok for her in the future to "make the world a little colder" by refusing to do things like that?

[Flora Louise]

Granny, I think if you read my response I joined the rest of you in declaring the woman rude. I did not declare the OP rude. I merely said I think she should have taken the shot. I just thought it would be nice.

Oh well, "Let me live in a house by the side of the road . . ." Or something.

[Twik]

I was not trying to defend rudeness. I was trying to explain it. If I asked someone to do me a tiny favor and the response was no, I'd feel embarassed. Like I put my foot in it. I don't say it's rational, it's probably what I'd feel.

I realize that etiquette allows us to refuse any and all requests. But why make the world colder? Why not help people out if we can do so easily? That's all I'm saying.

Because, in this case, it's inconvenient. And because it may well be playing into the hands of organized thieves.

That's not making the world colder. The world became colder when thieves and scam artists decided to prey on other people's generosity.

[magicdomino]

Somewhat off-topic, but how does one properly ask someone to take a photo?  I travel by myself, and like to have one photo of myself with a famous landmark.  Most of the time, there isn't a guide or other "official" employee.  I usually keep an eye out for a couple or family who are taking photos, and offer to take one of all of them if they will take one of me.  It sometimes takes a bit of charades if they don't speak English, but I haven't had any problems so far. 

[Lisbeth]

I think you can ask anyone who isn't clearly otherwise occupied.  Even then, you need to take "no" for an answer politely.

[gramma dishes]

Somewhat off-topic, but how does one properly ask someone to take a photo?  I travel by myself, and like to have one photo of myself with a famous landmark.  Most of the time, there isn't a guide or other "official" employee.  I usually keep an eye out for a couple or family who are taking photos, and offer to take one of all of them if they will take one of me.  It sometimes takes a bit of charades if they don't speak English, but I haven't had any problems so far. 

I think most of the time you'd be perfectly safe asking someone who is clearly part of a family.  Also watch for couples or groups using SLRs or bridge cameras as those people would likely feel quite comfortable using almost any kind of camera you might have.   Honestly, I don't think most people mind, and some of us actually enjoy taking pictures like this for other people.

If someone does turn down your request, just move on and try not to take it personally.  As we've seen here in this thread, people have a variety of different (legitimate) reasons to not want to use your camera to take your picture.  But most people will be fine with it.

[Flora Louise]

Ah, Etiquettehell.

[bobsyouruncle]

Ah, Etiquettehell.

I don't get it? Is that another "inside joke"?

[Granny Takes a Trip]

Ah, Etiquettehell.

I don't get it? Is that another "inside joke"?

I think that Flora Louise feels piled on. I am sorry if that is the case, but I can't apologize for my part in it, as I and many others considered her position untenable.

[Flora Louise]

Nah, I'm still smiling.

[DangerMouth]

I don't get it either. Is there a point to posting something so deliberately vague?

[Carnation]

I've asked and been asked.  People have made the offer to me and I have offered other people.

It wouldn't bother me if someone declined.

Also, let the record show I recently offered to take someone's photo so all three (young guys) could pose together.  I DROPPED THE GUY'S INORDINATELY EXPENSIVE PHONE!     Fortunately I caught it before it hit the ground.

Also fortunately, they laughed.

God bless 'em.