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Hanna:
Dindrane, Dangermouth and I were having a conversation in the thread about Misrepresentations of Culture whereby I think we realized we have some different ideas about how Bean Dipping really works.

http://www.etiquettehell.com/smf/index.php?topic=87668.75

I thought it would be better to bring the conversation here so as not to derail the thread.

Here is where we left off

--- Quote from: Dindrane on December 07, 2010, 07:29:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hanna on December 07, 2010, 07:26:09 PM ---I giggled at this post just now because Dindrane, I was trying to figure out where you came up with the idea that Beandipping is not supposed to be subtle (posted on the page 4).  I think it is best served with subtle flavors, so that the person doesn't even realize the topic has been changed.

I guess we all have our own ways to use it.

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I don't really see how abruptly changing the subject can be subtle.  If you want to subtlely change the subject, you don't do it abruptly.  Beandipping is defined, at least as far as I'm aware, as changing the subject abruptly to avoid discussing something you do not wish to talk about.  You don't always have to be glaringly obvious about it, but it's not really a subtle tactic.

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For me, the art of beandip is making it seem like a natural flow of conversation.  It's rare in my experience for any conversation topic to really be exhausted before a natural segue comes about.  To me, beandip should seem just like that.  Not a purposeful changing of the topic to get rid of the one at hand, but a sudden interest in something else that is greater.

Jan74:
I agree with the PP - it has to be really unsubtle to work, for the person to get that no, you will not be talking about that. Otherwise they just repeat it.

Yvaine:
I think it's usually obvious to the offender, but it can sometimes be subtle to third parties who are also present.

Bob Ducca:
I think bean-dipping is, by definition, an abrupt subject change to an unrelated topic designed to let the listener(s) know that topic is off-limits.

If it isn't abrupt, it isn't bean-dipping, it's normal conversation.  You can segue out of a topic naturally and still avoid it, that's fine, but it isn't bean-dipping.

Just my take.

Jan74:

--- Quote from: Deb1000Faces on December 07, 2010, 08:39:42 PM ---I think bean-dipping is, by definition, an abrupt subject change to an unrelated topic designed to let the listener(s) know that topic is off-limits.

If it isn't abrupt, it isn't bean-dipping, it's normal conversation.  You can segue out of a topic naturally and still avoid it, that's fine, but it isn't bean-dipping.

Just my take.

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