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Re: Was Christina Aguilera rude?
« Reply #240 on: February 14, 2011, 05:54:20 AM »
^Well...didn't Australia get colonized by a bunch of convicts from Great Britain? Perhaps they want to go back to that for some reason. :P

....I can't imagine why, though.

"Waltzing Matilda" is easier to sing than "Advance Australia Fair".  AAF is kind of like "The Star Spangled Banner" in that it jumps around a lot and is tricky to sing.  I haven't performed it in a key yet that comfortably accomodates men and women.

Many singers lengthen out the last "advance Australia fair", which often confuses the crowd, who sing it at the same tempo as the rest of the song.  Plus no one seems to agree on what the standard introduction should be.  I personally like the version that is played at FIFA-sanctioned football matches.  Unfortunately, it's a bit long, so people get confused and start early.

It makes me sad that we don't sing it at the beginning of national league football (soccer) games anymore.  My home club is famed for a supporters group that takes pride in singing and chanting.  We used to love trying to drown out the canned music  :P

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Re: Was Christina Aguilera rude?
« Reply #241 on: February 14, 2011, 10:16:08 AM »
The Prince Edward Island provincial anthem has pretty words (thanks to our LM Montgomery), and a nice tune. Brotherhood, not war.


Oh, that's terrific that they got LMM to write the words to the anthem. My inner 11-year-old is all a-squee.

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Re: Was Christina Aguilera rude?
« Reply #242 on: February 14, 2011, 10:57:14 AM »
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There's a movement to change it to "Waltzing Matilda" which I think is ridiculous.  Its about a guy who steals a sheep, gets busted and drowns himself in a nearby dam to avoid being taken to prison.  Yeah, go Australia.

That is not a good song for a national anthem. Even worse would be "And the band played the Waltzing Matilda".

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Re: Was Christina Aguilera rude?
« Reply #243 on: February 14, 2011, 11:38:37 AM »
OH! Is that what it's about?!? I never could decipher that slang.

Then, that would be like the U.S. making I Ride an Old Paint our national anthem.

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« Reply #244 on: February 14, 2011, 12:22:59 PM »
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OH! Is that what it's about?!? I never could decipher that slang.

Then, that would be like the U.S. making I Ride an Old Paint our national anthem.

A matilda is the sack tied to the end of the stick hobos carry. And they "waltz" through the country looking for jobs. Very interesting when you look it up.

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Re: Was Christina Aguilera rude?
« Reply #245 on: February 14, 2011, 12:41:13 PM »
And what is "bill?" And why do you wait for it to boil?
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Re: Was Christina Aguilera rude?
« Reply #246 on: February 14, 2011, 01:01:32 PM »
I think it's goat. And he was cooking his food.

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Re: Was Christina Aguilera rude?
« Reply #247 on: February 14, 2011, 06:43:38 PM »
And what is "bill?" And why do you wait for it to boil?

A billy is a metal pot used to boil water over an open fire.


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Re: Was Christina Aguilera rude?
« Reply #248 on: February 14, 2011, 08:18:21 PM »
I think it's goat. And he was cooking his food.

Oh, dear me no.  It's a tin can, used for cooking or boiling water for tea (see Jade'girls pic above).

A goat would be funny.

There is quite a bit of slang in Waltzing Matilda I suppose.  We get taught the meaning pretty early so you forget its slang.

Jumbuck is a sheep.
Billabong is the aboriginal word for dam.

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« Reply #249 on: February 14, 2011, 09:49:06 PM »
Ok, I thought goat made tons of sense. Billy goat? Guess not  ;)

But at least I got that he was cooking his food  ;D

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Re: Was Christina Aguilera rude?
« Reply #250 on: February 14, 2011, 10:47:47 PM »
What I always think is rude is adding all the extra notes and trying to "stylize" a song that should be sung as written.

Yes! A friend posted a link to it on facebook but I couldn't listen long enough to hear where she messed up. My gosh, Whitney Houston's extra high note was fantastic - what C.A. did to that song was just... unnecessary.  :-\

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Re: Was Christina Aguilera rude?
« Reply #251 on: February 15, 2011, 07:27:38 AM »
It's not just football though,  the joke is that the last line of the Star Spangled Banner is "Play Ball".    

Re:easier to sing anthem.
We used to have one,  Star Spangled Banner didn't become the national anthem until some (short) time after 1932.  It used to be the one with the same tune as "God Save the Queen".

Even some states songs are really really really war like.  
Ours was written during the civil war,  in Baltimore.  Maryland would have seceded except that Lincoln could not afford to be surrounded,  so we were under martial law.

The despot's heel is on thy shore,
    Maryland!
    His torch is at thy temple door,
    Maryland!
    Avenge the patriotic gore
    That flecked the streets of Baltimore,
    And be the battle queen of yore,
    Maryland! My Maryland!

    II
    Hark to an exiled son's appeal,
    Maryland!
    My Mother State! to thee I kneel,
    Maryland!
    For life or death, for woe or weal,
    Thy peerless chivalry reveal,
    And gird thy beauteous limbs with steel,
    Maryland! My Maryland!

    III
    Thou wilt not cower in the dust,
    Maryland!
    Thy beaming sword shall never rust,
    Maryland!
    Remember Carroll's sacred trust,
    Remember Howard's warlike thrust,-
    And all thy slumberers with the just,
    Maryland! My Maryland!

    IV
    Come! 'tis the red dawn of the day,
    Maryland!
    Come with thy panoplied array,
    Maryland!
    With Ringgold's spirit for the fray,
    With Watson's blood at Monterey,
    With fearless Lowe and dashing May,
    Maryland! My Maryland!

    V
    Come! for thy shield is bright and strong,
    Maryland!
    Come! for thy dalliance does thee wrong,
    Maryland!
    Come to thine own anointed throng,
    Stalking with Liberty along,
    And sing thy dauntless slogan song,
    Maryland! My Maryland!

    VI
    Dear Mother! burst the tyrant's chain,
    Maryland!
    Virginia should not call in vain,
    Maryland!
    She meets her sisters on the plain-
    Sic semper! 'tis the proud refrain
    That baffles minions back amain,
    Maryland!
    Arise in majesty again,
    Maryland! My Maryland!

    VII
    I see the blush upon thy cheek,
    Maryland!
    For thou wast ever bravely meek,
    Maryland!
    But lo! there surges forth a shriek,
    From hill to hill, from creek to creek,
    Potomac calls to Chesapeake,
    Maryland! My Maryland!

    VIII
    Thou wilt not yield the Vandal toll,
    Maryland!
    Thou wilt not crook to his control,
    Maryland!
    Better the fire upon thee roll, Better the shot, the blade, the bowl,
    Than crucifixion of the Soul,
    Maryland! My Maryland!

    IX
    I hear the distant thunder-hum,
    Maryland!
    The Old Line bugle, fife, and drum,
    Maryland!
    She is not dead, nor deaf, nor dumb-
    Huzza! She spurns the Northern scum!
    She breathes! She burns! She'll come! She'll come!
    Maryland! My Maryland!

Sung to the tune of "O Tanenbaum"


Tell me you're joking? Please?

;D

Sadly, not a joke.  I'm also from Maryland.  The "despot" and "tyrant" referred to in the song is LINCOLN.  So the state national anthem is basically saying, "Go Maryland, defy that evil Lincoln and secede, like Virginia did!"

Maryland was a slave state, below the Mason Dixon line.  It only did not secede due to federal military interference. Washington, DC is located entirely between MD and VA, so if MD had seceded, the nation's capital would have been located in the Confederacy.  This is what made the issue of MD seceding or not so important.

We learned this state song in school as kind of a ridiculous relic.  It's not something that anybody sings with pride, or that I ever hear except as an ironic, "Can you believe this is our state song?"  Every so often people try to pass legislature to change the state song but it never works.

So, yeah.  We probably have the only state song in the nation that urges that the president be killed.   ::)

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Re: Was Christina Aguilera rude?
« Reply #252 on: February 15, 2011, 01:50:40 PM »
Australia's isn't.   We just sing about how great we are:

[snip]

There's a movement to change it to "Waltzing Matilda" which I think is ridiculous.  Its about a guy who steals a sheep, gets busted and drowns himself in a nearby dam to avoid being taken to prison.  Yeah, go Australia.

I was looking up haka vids on YouTube the other day (as you do), and came across a clip of the 2008 Tri Nations Wallabies v. All Blacks match, which reminded me of your post.

The All Blacks perform an enthusiastic pre-game haka. The Australian crowd knock out a mass rendition of Waltzing Matilda in response. It's all very stirring.  

Commentator #1: [disgruntled complaints about the haka giving the All Blacks an unfair psychological advantage]

Commentator #2 [cheerfully]: "At least Australia's got Waltzing Matilda which is ringing out around the ground..."

Commentator #1 [sarcastically]: "Oh, I'm sure that terrifies them. About a bloke knocking off a sheep and drowning himself."

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Re: Was Christina Aguilera rude?
« Reply #253 on: February 15, 2011, 04:22:28 PM »
^ROFL that is hilarious. :D

And sure to strike terror in their opponents' hearts. :P
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