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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #7710 on: May 27, 2013, 10:40:29 AM »
And just to be more confusing, there are "consignment shops".  Generally, these shops accept only designer brand clothes in season.  You bring in a pile, and the shop tries to resell it and gives you a percentage of the profit.  It's not meant to be a charity, and all those workers are paid.  Some specialize in baby things, children's clothes, teenage girl things, etc. 

I used to use one in my hometown for baby things, but it's easier now for me just to donate to a charity shop.

I have a consignment shop right near my work.  She's fussy; it has to be reasonably in style, in good repair and there are some things she just won't take.  I take stuff to her first, pack away what she won't take and wait to see what sells.  Whatever doesn't sell, I add to what I packed away and donate the lot.  Which reminds me, I have a couple of dresses I'm tired of that I should try to sell and see if I can get some money for them.  No weddings to go to this summer so I won't need to buy a new one for a while.
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« Reply #7711 on: May 27, 2013, 11:28:41 AM »
Regarding the whole "Gif" vs "Jif" thing...

There are two main reasons why I am convinced it's a hard G (incidentally, who decided that the G that sounds like J is a soft G?  It sounds hard to me!)

1) We use a hard G for just about every other acronym, even when there's evidence it should be soft (Gigabyte vs Jiggabyte)
2) There is actually a .jif format... what would we call it?
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« Reply #7712 on: May 27, 2013, 12:27:00 PM »
Regarding the whole "Gif" vs "Jif" thing...

There are two main reasons why I am convinced it's a hard G (incidentally, who decided that the G that sounds like J is a soft G?  It sounds hard to me!)

1) We use a hard G for just about every other acronym, even when there's evidence it should be soft (Gigabyte vs Jiggabyte)
2) There is actually a .jif format... what would we call it?

This reminds me of the time a friend used the word 'jeek' (english is not our first language). it took me a while to understand she had meant geek  :o
I don't blame her, if she never heard the word then applying our logic of sounding out words it would be said 'jeek'.

So, just to add my 2 cents, even if we* should say jif if it was without context, I've always heard/said gif.
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« Reply #7713 on: May 27, 2013, 12:45:55 PM »
I just noticed (but was quoted so I'm not editing)... I used "acronym" when I meant "computer term".
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« Reply #7714 on: May 27, 2013, 01:21:37 PM »
Is the graphic file type .gif pronounced:

Gif -- as in gift?

or

Jif -- as in jiffy?


I'm constantly being corrected by the younger artists when I say "Jif". They say "Oh, you mean a "Gif" file?"

I say "I've been using "Jif" files since you were in 5th grade. They still try to tell me that I'm wrong. ::)


Please tell me that I'm not wrong.

Erm, sorry, it's a hard 'g'. It's an acronym for "graphics interchange format." The rule with 'g's in acronyms is that they are hard if they were hard in the original word they started, which is the case here. They are soft only when they were soft in their original word and they are directly followed by an 'e', 'i', or 'y' in the acronym.

The creator wanted it to be said 'jif' to sound like some other brand at the time. But unfortunately, he doesn't get to redefine English pronunciation rules. And the hard 'g' pronunciation is almost universal now anyway.

Thanks for that explanation.

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2) There is actually a .jif format... what would we call it?

I did not know this.

So I did a bit of research and came up with this from the Urban Dictionary: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=.jif%20alert

"1.    jif alert
   
A jif alert is when someone pronounces the file extension of ".gif" with a soft g or "J" sound as in "jiffy" and someone subsequently calls them on it. Technically, "jif" and "gif" are both correct, but only tech-geeks and nerds use the former pronunciation, while 95% of the population uses the latter. Also, the G in .gif stands for "graphics" which has a hard G, therefore .gif shall be pronounced with a hard G unless you just want to be a snob about it."



I guess that means that I'm officially a nerd. ;D

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« Reply #7715 on: May 27, 2013, 08:55:29 PM »
Today's Penny Arcade comic is about the .gif thing :-P

ETA: I linked it directly but forgot it contains some NSFW language - sorry!

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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #7716 on: May 28, 2013, 04:05:15 AM »
Is the graphic file type .gif pronounced:

Gif -- as in gift?

or

Jif -- as in jiffy?


I'm constantly being corrected by the younger artists when I say "Jif". They say "Oh, you mean a "Gif" file?"

I say "I've been using "Jif" files since you were in 5th grade. They still try to tell me that I'm wrong. ::)


Please tell me that I'm not wrong.

Erm, sorry, it's a hard 'g'. It's an acronym for "graphics interchange format." The rule with 'g's in acronyms is that they are hard if they were hard in the original word they started, which is the case here. They are soft only when they were soft in their original word and they are directly followed by an 'e', 'i', or 'y' in the acronym.

The creator wanted it to be said 'jif' to sound like some other brand at the time. But unfortunately, he doesn't get to redefine English pronunciation rules. And the hard 'g' pronunciation is almost universal now anyway.

Thanks for that explanation.

Also:


2) There is actually a .jif format... what would we call it?

I did not know this.

So I did a bit of research and came up with this from the Urban Dictionary: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=.jif%20alert

"1.    jif alert
   
A jif alert is when someone pronounces the file extension of ".gif" with a soft g or "J" sound as in "jiffy" and someone subsequently calls them on it. Technically, "jif" and "gif" are both correct, but only tech-geeks and nerds use the former pronunciation, while 95% of the population uses the latter. Also, the G in .gif stands for "graphics" which has a hard G, therefore .gif shall be pronounced with a hard G unless you just want to be a snob about it."



I guess that means that I'm officially a nerd. ;D

Disclaimer: I don't use .gif files for anything at all. I look at them sometimes, but that's all.

I tend to think that if you invent something you should get to name it, and to heck with grammar rules. After all the fridge people got to put a whole other letter in when abbreviating their word, just because they liked it more that way.  ;D
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« Reply #7717 on: May 28, 2013, 11:55:57 AM »
Thanks for the e reader helps!  I have crossed my fingers and toes and ordered a refurbished Kindle Keyboard from eBay.  :)
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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #7718 on: May 29, 2013, 10:28:08 AM »
I'm never gentle after conditioning. You're supposed to leave it on your hair for about five minutes before you rinse off - by then whatever's going to do its work on your hair has soaked into the hair shaft. (I'll admit I sometimes rinse it off right away too, but honestly I don't notice much difference!) I don't think you'd be able to rub it off when it's soaked in!

I usually wash my hair first when I'm in the shower, then I put in the conditioner and let it sit while I wash the rest of my body.  Then I rinse out the conditioner when I rinse the rest of me.  That usually works well for me.  However, I wash and rinse and get out FAST, because extended time under a shower tends to dry out my skin, so I don't linger.  It's usually 10 minutes, from start to finish.   
I've never had problems with rubbing off the conditioner with a towel.

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« Reply #7719 on: May 29, 2013, 10:33:45 AM »
I'm never gentle after conditioning. You're supposed to leave it on your hair for about five minutes before you rinse off - by then whatever's going to do its work on your hair has soaked into the hair shaft. (I'll admit I sometimes rinse it off right away too, but honestly I don't notice much difference!) I don't think you'd be able to rub it off when it's soaked in!

I usually wash my hair first when I'm in the shower, then I put in the conditioner and let it sit while I wash the rest of my body.  Then I rinse out the conditioner when I rinse the rest of me.  That usually works well for me.  However, I wash and rinse and get out FAST, because extended time under a shower tends to dry out my skin, so I don't linger.  It's usually 10 minutes, from start to finish.   
I've never had problems with rubbing off the conditioner with a towel.

Heck, I take 5-7 minute showers so I don't leave the conditioner on more than 30 seconds!
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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #7720 on: May 29, 2013, 04:55:47 PM »
I'm never gentle after conditioning. You're supposed to leave it on your hair for about five minutes before you rinse off - by then whatever's going to do its work on your hair has soaked into the hair shaft. (I'll admit I sometimes rinse it off right away too, but honestly I don't notice much difference!) I don't think you'd be able to rub it off when it's soaked in!

I usually wash my hair first when I'm in the shower, then I put in the conditioner and let it sit while I wash the rest of my body.  Then I rinse out the conditioner when I rinse the rest of me.  That usually works well for me.  However, I wash and rinse and get out FAST, because extended time under a shower tends to dry out my skin, so I don't linger.  It's usually 10 minutes, from start to finish.   
I've never had problems with rubbing off the conditioner with a towel.

This is almost exactly what I do.  When I get out, I flip my head over and give it a maybe 10-20 seconds of a rub with the towel.  My hair is still quite damp but not dripping.
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« Reply #7721 on: May 29, 2013, 05:44:43 PM »
Okay, here's one.

Why do people get teary-eyed, or actually start crying, if they yawn hard enough? I'm sick of people thinking I'm bored to tears when I'm actually exhausted beyond belief!
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« Reply #7722 on: May 29, 2013, 06:32:24 PM »
I'm never gentle after conditioning. You're supposed to leave it on your hair for about five minutes before you rinse off - by then whatever's going to do its work on your hair has soaked into the hair shaft. (I'll admit I sometimes rinse it off right away too, but honestly I don't notice much difference!) I don't think you'd be able to rub it off when it's soaked in!

I usually wash my hair first when I'm in the shower, then I put in the conditioner and let it sit while I wash the rest of my body.  Then I rinse out the conditioner when I rinse the rest of me.  That usually works well for me.  However, I wash and rinse and get out FAST, because extended time under a shower tends to dry out my skin, so I don't linger.  It's usually 10 minutes, from start to finish.   
I've never had problems with rubbing off the conditioner with a towel.

This is me, too.  But I don't rub my hair at all.  I just wrap my head in the towel and leave it on while I brush my teeth and put in my contacts.  Then I take the towel off and comb it out.  By the time I get to work, the top layer is dry, even if it is still a bit damp underneath.  If I rubbed my hair, it would negate the work the conditioner did because my hair would be in absolute tangles.  It works even better if I use a microfibre towel.
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« Reply #7723 on: May 29, 2013, 06:59:59 PM »
I notice that if I am really tired, no matter how early in the day, I have tears just roll down my face. I take it as a hint that I need to sleep more.

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« Reply #7724 on: May 30, 2013, 07:22:38 AM »
Okay, here's one.

Why do people get teary-eyed, or actually start crying, if they yawn hard enough? I'm sick of people thinking I'm bored to tears when I'm actually exhausted beyond belief!

Probably some weird psychological response. 

From personal experience, I find it happens when I'm tired and my eyes feel sticky/dry.  I figure it's my body's way of moistening my dry eyes.
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