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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #8880 on: January 04, 2014, 06:52:10 PM »
In the yelling at cats thread, people keep saying that it's unhygienic to allow cats on food prep/eating surfaces such as tables and countertops. But do people really prepare food directly on the countertop or eat directly off the table? I would never consider that hygienic, regardless of cats, unless the surface had just been cleaned. Is it not the norm to always prepare food on cutting boards and to always eat off plates?

I generally prepare food on cutting boards and eat off plates, but in between I touch the surrounding surfaces a lot: I lay the vegetables I'm about to chop on the counters, drum my fingers on it while I think, etc, so there's still lots of opportunities for contamination.


This is where I am. It really bothers me that cats are walking through their litter and licking their paws - it's instinct, but I can't stand it - and then on counters and tables. They also a walking on the floor. Shoe free house or not, it's still the floor, sweaty socks or feet and all.

I really get creeped out about animals sleeping with people. Oh, my.

But, you seem to love it and as far as I know, no one has died from it, so it's your life and your pets.
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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #8881 on: January 04, 2014, 06:54:25 PM »
No cats, but I do use the countertop pretty frequently for making a sandwich or something.  If I'm going to be using a plate anyway, I put that down first, but when it's just a question of spreading some peanut butter on a graham cracker for Babybartfast, I don't bother.  No reason the counters would be any dirtier than any other surface in the house.

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« Reply #8882 on: January 04, 2014, 06:59:55 PM »
I have cats and they do get up on the counter.  I shoo them off but, frankly, I'm not phobic about germs so I don't let it get to me too much. 

If I'm making food for people other than my daughter and me, I am a lot more aware paranoid about cleaning and keeping everything off the counter and making sure there is no contamination.

If it's just for me, eh.  I put bread on the counter to make a sandwich.  I put spoons, knives and folks on the counter before using them.  I'll put some crackers on the island/counter to munch on while I read the paper.

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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #8883 on: January 04, 2014, 07:07:56 PM »
In the yelling at cats thread, people keep saying that it's unhygienic to allow cats on food prep/eating surfaces such as tables and countertops. But do people really prepare food directly on the countertop or eat directly off the table? I would never consider that hygienic, regardless of cats, unless the surface had just been cleaned. Is it not the norm to always prepare food on cutting boards and to always eat off plates?

I generally prepare food on cutting boards and eat off plates, but in between I touch the surrounding surfaces a lot: I lay the vegetables I'm about to chop on the counters, drum my fingers on it while I think, etc, so there's still lots of opportunities for contamination.


This is where I am. It really bothers me that cats are walking through their litter and licking their paws - it's instinct, but I can't stand it - and then on counters and tables. They also a walking on the floor. Shoe free house or not, it's still the floor, sweaty socks or feet and all.

I really get creeped out about animals sleeping with people. Oh, my.

But, you seem to love it and as far as I know, no one has died from it, so it's your life and your pets. I just don't eat your food.

I won't argue with personal hangups. I'm just surprised at the assumption that I would place food on any surface where the cats have been walking. My cats might go on the countertops, but my food and utensils don't. I'm more cautious than many about food safety and I don't think my food is any more likely than the next person's to be contaminated.
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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #8884 on: January 04, 2014, 07:10:45 PM »
I sometimes make myself an herbal tea blend.  It has chamomile,  Valerian, and rose hips.  My cat LOVES it.  Any idea why?

He is the weird cat that will eat anything from broccoli to spaghetti sauce, but my other cats seem really interested in it as well.  I had to give them a saucer just so I could drink my tea in peace.
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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #8885 on: January 04, 2014, 07:12:19 PM »
I have three cats and they never go on the counter tops. Table, yes, counter tops, no.

I clean the counters and tables down regardless. I never prepare food directly on the counter or table surface.
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« Reply #8886 on: January 04, 2014, 07:21:09 PM »
I realized how harsh and unnecessary that last statement of mine was and went to edit it out, hoping no one would see it so quickly.

Apologies to all.

It is especially funny that we are not so careful about expiration dates on food - never serve to guests, but we still use it, and we have never gotten sick from it!

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« Reply #8887 on: January 04, 2014, 08:25:41 PM »
I sometimes make myself an herbal tea blend.  It has chamomile,  Valerian, and rose hips.  My cat LOVES it.  Any idea why?

He is the weird cat that will eat anything from broccoli to spaghetti sauce, but my other cats seem really interested in it as well.  I had to give them a saucer just so I could drink my tea in peace.
An herbalist once told me that catnip is kitty pot*, and valerian is kitty cocaine.  Whether or not that's true, there must be some attractive compound in the tea that your cats can smell and crave.

*My cats stole a whole sandwich bag of freshly dried catnip, ate an unknown amount, and spent most of the night strewing the remaining crumbs all over the living room carpet.  I  got up to find two pie-eyed cats weaving around saying "Man, that was GOOOOOD weed!"
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« Reply #8888 on: January 04, 2014, 08:44:37 PM »
I sometimes make myself an herbal tea blend.  It has chamomile,  Valerian, and rose hips.  My cat LOVES it.  Any idea why?

He is the weird cat that will eat anything from broccoli to spaghetti sauce, but my other cats seem really interested in it as well.  I had to give them a saucer just so I could drink my tea in peace.
An herbalist once told me that catnip is kitty pot*, and Valerian is kitty cocaine.  Whether or not that's true, there must be some attractive compound in the tea that your cats can smell and crave.

*My cats stole a whole sandwich bag of freshly dried catnip, ate an unknown amount, and spent most of the night strewing the remaining crumbs all over the living room carpet.  I  got up to find two pie-eyed cats weaving around saying "Man, that was GOOOOOD weed!"

I've had that happen with catnip as well.  It is really funny.

He likes other teas as well, but you are probably correct about the Valerian root (it's in his homeopathic calm the heck down medicine the vet told me to give him before taking him in...he gets a Little riled up in the car).  He'll drink chamomile by itself though and he really likes the Bigelow's sleepytime tea as well.  Heck, he likes plain green and black tea too...he's a bit strange for a cat.

Right now, I have some very mellow kittens.


ETA  the medicine is the only medicine I've ever had a cat voluntarily take.  He knows where it's kept snd will sometimes stare longingly at the cabinet.  I never put two and two together.  I guess I have a valerian root addict.
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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #8889 on: January 04, 2014, 09:45:24 PM »
In the yelling at cats thread, people keep saying that it's unhygienic to allow cats on food prep/eating surfaces such as tables and countertops. But do people really prepare food directly on the countertop or eat directly off the table? I would never consider that hygienic, regardless of cats, unless the surface had just been cleaned. Is it not the norm to always prepare food on cutting boards and to always eat off plates?

I generally prepare food on cutting boards and eat off plates, but in between I touch the surrounding surfaces a lot: I lay the vegetables I'm about to chop on the counters, drum my fingers on it while I think, etc, so there's still lots of opportunities for contamination.

My question is, how do I prepare coffee in a pot like this?

http://www.rubylane.com/item/680714-CB303/Fine-Antique-French-Brass-Coffee

My grandmother sent me something less ornate but with the same set up for Christmas: a pot with a long handle and there's a filter on the spout. Can I make coffee in it? If so, how?

I believe that is a pot for serving coffee, not making it.  The filter in the spout would be to make absolutely sure that no grounds get in the cups.

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« Reply #8890 on: January 04, 2014, 09:57:37 PM »
I too use the counter top at times. If I've wiped it down earlier in the day I don't wash it again for making a sandwich.  I make pie/tart/quiche crusts on my counter top. I have quartz and it's awesome because it is cool like marble, but not porous like marble or granite. 

I'm always vigilant about pet hair.  It gets everywhere.  Don't ask how many times I wash my hands while cooking. It's a huge number.

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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #8891 on: January 05, 2014, 09:46:18 PM »
Ok new question: Does anyone know how hair salons price haircuts? The one I go to lists a range of about $25-100+. Once you get past a trim, how do you determine the cost? Time spent? Length? Amount of hair removed? Or just the classic "knowing where to thump it"?
I ask because I don't think I ask for a lot of work and my haircut is done very quickly...but always ends up being on the high end, pricewise. :'(

Anyone have any insight?
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« Reply #8892 on: January 05, 2014, 10:02:48 PM »
In my experience, it's usually based on the experience level of the person doing the cutting.  So a very experienced, in high demand hairdresser might charge $100 for a women's cut, regardless of length, while a new hairdresser in that same salon might charge only $35 for the same cut.

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« Reply #8893 on: January 06, 2014, 05:48:52 AM »
Ok new question: Does anyone know how hair salons price haircuts? The one I go to lists a range of about $25-100+. Once you get past a trim, how do you determine the cost? Time spent? Length? Amount of hair removed? Or just the classic "knowing where to thump it"?
I ask because I don't think I ask for a lot of work and my haircut is done very quickly...but always ends up being on the high end, pricewise. :'(

Anyone have any insight?

If there is not a specific set price, like $10 trim, $25 short hair, $35 Medium, etc, then you need to ask before scissors touch your head what the price will be and what is the reason behind the pricing.  I personally despise salons that have the crazy price range with no explanation as to that particular price.

Like gollymolly2, I believe you are paying for a very experienced  in demand hairdresser.  Unless you are just totally devoted to them, I'd take a picture of my hair after the cut is done (from several angles) and go hairdresser shopping.
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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #8894 on: January 06, 2014, 10:17:12 AM »
The argument for not allowing animals up on the table is that, unlike counters, most people will lay utensils directly on a table, and then pick them up and use them to eat, so it's wise to keep the pets off the table or wipe it down right before serving a meal.

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