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Dindrane

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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #8985 on: February 03, 2014, 02:21:01 PM »
I find Pandora sort of annoying. It seems to hit on a lot of songs I don't really like, and because you are limited to both thumbs-downing AND skipping songs to just a few per length-of-time-they-don't-specify, I end up having to listen to a bunch of songs I really dislike for far longer than I think is reasonable.

I ran into this issue when I was looking for Christmas music that didn't make me feel stabby back in December (the local radio stations that play it play most horrible renditions of songs I don't even like that much to begin with). I set up a station that seemed promising (in that I liked the first few), faithfully marked "like" or "dislike" for each song, and quickly found myself having to listen to songs that made me feel stabby because I'd used up my skips on songs that I only mildly disliked. And it seemed like at least every other song was one that I seriously could not stand. I think I disliked 3 or 4 separate renditions of "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" and still kept getting different artists versions of that song. Particularly for stuff like that, I kind of wish there was a way to specify that I dislike the song itself (but not the artist), the artist (but not the song) or both.

Even from artists I otherwise love, there are a few of their songs that just grate on my last nerve. And there are some artists that I can't stand who apparently lots of other people think are similar to ones I love.

I tried out IHeartRadio on a whim this morning, and seemed to do better with that one. Maybe I just trust DJs to pick out a good mix of songs I'm likely to enjoy based on a brief description than I am to trust what amounts to crowdsourcing.


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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #8986 on: February 03, 2014, 02:26:55 PM »
I find Pandora sort of annoying. It seems to hit on a lot of songs I don't really like, and because you are limited to both thumbs-downing AND skipping songs to just a few per length-of-time-they-don't-specify, I end up having to listen to a bunch of songs I really dislike for far longer than I think is reasonable.

I ran into this issue when I was looking for Christmas music that didn't make me feel stabby back in December (the local radio stations that play it play most horrible renditions of songs I don't even like that much to begin with). I set up a station that seemed promising (in that I liked the first few), faithfully marked "like" or "dislike" for each song, and quickly found myself having to listen to songs that made me feel stabby because I'd used up my skips on songs that I only mildly disliked. And it seemed like at least every other song was one that I seriously could not stand. I think I disliked 3 or 4 separate renditions of "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" and still kept getting different artists versions of that song. Particularly for stuff like that, I kind of wish there was a way to specify that I dislike the song itself (but not the artist), the artist (but not the song) or both.

Even from artists I otherwise love, there are a few of their songs that just grate on my last nerve. And there are some artists that I can't stand who apparently lots of other people think are similar to ones I love.

I tried out IHeartRadio on a whim this morning, and seemed to do better with that one. Maybe I just trust DJs to pick out a good mix of songs I'm likely to enjoy based on a brief description than I am to trust what amounts to crowdsourcing.

I have the same gripe with Pandora. I have a station I set up based on an Ingrid Michaelson song. I want peppy, singable stuff for when I'm cleaning and cooking. No. I get lots of super emotional, slow, downer music instead. Even though the lyrics go, "LET'S GET RICH AND BUY OUR PARENTS HOMES IN THE SOUTH OF FRANCE!" Or another station I set up, where I got the impression that Pandora was aggressively trying to push me into loving reggae.

ETA: And then sometimes it seems like it overcorrects. I don't want sad chick breakup songs, so I must want all kinds of screechy pop music and autotune.


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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #8987 on: February 03, 2014, 03:10:09 PM »
I find Pandora sort of annoying. It seems to hit on a lot of songs I don't really like, and because you are limited to both thumbs-downing AND skipping songs to just a few per length-of-time-they-don't-specify, I end up having to listen to a bunch of songs I really dislike for far longer than I think is reasonable.

I ran into this issue when I was looking for Christmas music that didn't make me feel stabby back in December (the local radio stations that play it play most horrible renditions of songs I don't even like that much to begin with). I set up a station that seemed promising (in that I liked the first few), faithfully marked "like" or "dislike" for each song, and quickly found myself having to listen to songs that made me feel stabby because I'd used up my skips on songs that I only mildly disliked. And it seemed like at least every other song was one that I seriously could not stand. I think I disliked 3 or 4 separate renditions of "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" and still kept getting different artists versions of that song. Particularly for stuff like that, I kind of wish there was a way to specify that I dislike the song itself (but not the artist), the artist (but not the song) or both.

Even from artists I otherwise love, there are a few of their songs that just grate on my last nerve. And there are some artists that I can't stand who apparently lots of other people think are similar to ones I love.

I tried out IHeartRadio on a whim this morning, and seemed to do better with that one. Maybe I just trust DJs to pick out a good mix of songs I'm likely to enjoy based on a brief description than I am to trust what amounts to crowdsourcing.

Apparently if you log out and log right back in again, Pandora will give you the full complement of skips and thumbs-downs again. It's a bit of an effort, but if it keeps you from getting out  the knives...

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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #8988 on: February 04, 2014, 12:41:47 AM »
That's good to know, but I generally respond by just not listening to Pandora. :)

On the plus side, it did do what Carotte is after, and helped me discover/remember a few artists whose albums I ended up buying. And then I just listened to iTunes and the world was a glorious place!

I'm guessing that people with more patience with this sort of thing have more success with Pandora than I do. I'd just generally rather spend my time doing something else even if I have to do it in silence.


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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #8989 on: February 04, 2014, 05:18:28 AM »
Music Map is a great way to find new bands/music that is similar to another band you like.  You type in the name of a band you like and it will display a diagram of other bands similar to it that other people who like your band also like. I've found some great recommendations for bands I've never heard of before.

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« Reply #8990 on: February 04, 2014, 09:41:58 AM »
We all know that if a person is placed in an "air-tight" container, eventually the person would use up all the oxygen in that container and suffocate. 

If there were plants in that container, could the plants and the person sustain each other (recirculate the oxygen and carbon dioxide)? 

If so, how many plants would one person need to sustain him/herself?  (And vice versa, I guess...)
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« Reply #8991 on: February 04, 2014, 09:46:24 AM »
We all know that if a person is placed in an "air-tight" container, eventually the person would use up all the oxygen in that container and suffocate. 

If there were plants in that container, could the plants and the person sustain each other (recirculate the oxygen and carbon dioxide)? 

If so, how many plants would one person need to sustain him/herself?  (And vice versa, I guess...)

Plants also use up oxygen as part of their respiration process, although they do give off oxygen during photosynthesis.  They used to remove plants from patients rooms at night way back when over concerns that they'd use too much oxygen.

Plants do quite fine on their own in a terrarium but adding in another organism that would use up the oxygen and not replenish it, as well as producing more carbon dioxide, probably wouldn't work very well on a small scale.  I think it would need to be a pretty big room with lots of plants for there to be any chance of success.
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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #8992 on: February 04, 2014, 10:12:27 AM »
We all know that if a person is placed in an "air-tight" container, eventually the person would use up all the oxygen in that container and suffocate. 

If there were plants in that container, could the plants and the person sustain each other (recirculate the oxygen and carbon dioxide)? 

If so, how many plants would one person need to sustain him/herself?  (And vice versa, I guess...)

Biodomes

Depends on how long you want it to sustain.  You can create a relatively small, sealed ecosystem which will keep for years (and you can buy those commercially).  Something big enough for a person would require balancing a lot more than just oxygen, though.  In general, the longer you want everything to balance, the larger you will need the container to be.

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« Reply #8993 on: February 04, 2014, 02:06:51 PM »
Betelnut wrote:

"If so, how many plants would one person need to sustain him/herself?  (And vice versa, I guess...)"

If the only concern for circular processing is the atmosphere, then a container about the size of a trailer home or commecrial bus could contain sufficient plant life to allow for carbon dioxide scrubbing to the level of a single human surviving.  Of course, as Slartibartfast wrote, there's a lot more to closed biospheres than the oxygen cycle so something capable of sustaining a single human in all ways would require a lot more.  If you wanted to incorporate technology (for example, an active CO2 scrubber driven by solar power rather than using plants to do the job) then you can start sizing the habitat down again, but for an all natural solution that's about the minimum.

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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #8994 on: February 04, 2014, 02:08:29 PM »
for a long time, it also depends on what the container is made of.

in the biosphere 2 project, the amount of oxygen in the air of their closed ecosystem dropped, eventually to something like 15% (from a normal 21). it turned out that they had used a kind of concrete that absorbed oxygen from the air.
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« Reply #8995 on: February 04, 2014, 03:26:06 PM »
An aside - Anytime someone mentions biodomes, I think of the Tragically Hip song "Titanic Terrarium" where he sings, "Growing up in a biosphere / No respect for bad weather."
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« Reply #8996 on: February 06, 2014, 02:01:08 PM »
How do Olympic figure skaters not get freezing cold out there?  Every rink I've ever been in is uncomfortable without a coat, let alone in a skimpy outfit.  If they have to fake it, it's great acting!



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« Reply #8997 on: February 06, 2014, 02:21:56 PM »
I don't think figure skaters have to fake it.  If you watch closely, they're moving so quickly and executing such athletic moves that they generate a lot of heat and don't feel the cold. 

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« Reply #8998 on: February 06, 2014, 02:33:24 PM »
You don't feel the cold during a performance, for sure, or during a rigorous practice.  The only time I was cold was when we had to do figures and you were just skating a figure 8 over and over and not really moving much.

(I used to skate.  I wasn't very good, mind you, but I used to skate.  :))
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« Reply #8999 on: February 06, 2014, 03:48:34 PM »
In actually don't find ice rinks that cold to be honest, I only wear long pants because if I fall I don't want my skin to touch the ice. Moving around sure keeps you warm enough, and if it's a hot summers day the ice is a great place to be.