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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #5370 on: July 23, 2012, 09:54:28 PM »
When a business location goes from one sort of business to another, who is responsible for making any changes to the facilities, the incoming business owner or the building owner?  Let's say that the old outgoing business was a hair salon in a mall.  So the space currently  has the kind of sinks and things that you would use for washing hair.  The incoming business is a bakery, and needs ovens and and other commercial kitchen facilities.  Does the bakery foot the bill for ripping out the hair-washing sinks and installing the things they need, or the mall owner?  Does the answer change if it is a chain bakery like Cinnabon, vs a purely local bakery?

Generally the business owner but it's often negotiated between the business and the lessor. If the space has been empty for some time, for example, the landlord will often pay a fit out bonus or waive the rent for a while to encourage the business to rent their shop.

Big chains have much more bargaining power and bring people into malls and so are more likely to be able to negotiate extras from the landlords.

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« Reply #5371 on: July 23, 2012, 10:22:08 PM »
When a business location goes from one sort of business to another, who is responsible for making any changes to the facilities, the incoming business owner or the building owner?  Let's say that the old outgoing business was a hair salon in a mall.  So the space currently  has the kind of sinks and things that you would use for washing hair.  The incoming business is a bakery, and needs ovens and and other commercial kitchen facilities.  Does the bakery foot the bill for ripping out the hair-washing sinks and installing the things they need, or the mall owner?  Does the answer change if it is a chain bakery like Cinnabon, vs a purely local bakery?

What you are referring to is called "Fitout".   (Here at least, perhaps it differs around the world!)  Usually it is the tenants responsibility, basically they're leasing the building and can use it how they wish.   There is often a clause to that says technically they must return it to the original condition if requested at end of lease. In reality, in my experience this rarely occurs.  For example, we just painted the front door of our office blue - it was brown - technically we could be required to paint it brown again if we move out.  In reality, it looks nicer blue (plus the brown was horribly faded) and the landlord is unlikely to care - they'll just leave it and let the next tenant repaint if they want to, and again at the tenant's own cost.  Likewise, any other changes we made we could be required to undo/change, but in most cases they'd just leave it and let the next person sort it out.

Sometimes they will lease a premise that's already got existing fitout or with some $ towards fitout included.  Some building owners might have an arrangement with a particular contractor to do the fitout, or have other ways of working it out.   In our case our lease included having some repairs done to the building, and also new carpet and paint.  This all had to be done prior to the lease officially commencing and us moving in, so they weren't getting paid until it was done.    But now that we're in, if we want other changes we have to sort it out ourselves (unless it's a problem e.g. something stops working that they were responsible for).   Obviously each situation varies, but unless contractually agreed the general rule is "as is, where is", you get exactly what you see unless you negotiate something extra.   

**Of course, local laws etc may vary and require a landlord to make specific provisions.  But this is more general information not legal advice!
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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #5372 on: July 25, 2012, 09:32:48 AM »
How would one pronounce the city name "Syracuse"? Is it seera-cuse or sara-cuse?

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« Reply #5373 on: July 25, 2012, 09:39:03 AM »
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« Reply #5374 on: July 25, 2012, 10:06:23 AM »
After you flush a toilet and the water tank fills, do you notice how the last few seconds the sound seems more "airy" and higher pitched before it stops completely?  Lately our master bathroom toilet will make that sound for no reason.  Just the last 3 seconds or so of water filling up.  I don't know if water is actually flowing when it does this or not.  We've lived here 11 years and this just started.  Is there a valve or something I should check?  Maybe water is slowly leaking out of the tank (that one just occurred to me as I typed this)?


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« Reply #5375 on: July 25, 2012, 10:38:56 AM »
Maybe water is slowly leaking out of the tank?

This one is easy enough to check.  Put some food colouring in the tank and if the water in the bowl changes colour, too, it's leaking.   :)
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« Reply #5376 on: July 25, 2012, 10:47:39 AM »
How would one pronounce the city name "Syracuse"? Is it seera-cuse or sara-cuse?

I've heard it pronounced both; "sara-cuse" was said that way by someone who lived there.

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« Reply #5377 on: July 25, 2012, 11:43:35 AM »
ScubaGirl wrote:

"Maybe water is slowly leaking out of the tank?"

It's almost certain that the flush valve is leaking.  When your toilet regularly opens the water valve it means that the tank is leaking until the float drops enough to open the valve a bit, which lets a little water in which closes the valve very quickly.  You can do the dye test that Outdoor Girl suggested to be positive, but honestly it's the only explanation unless you've got a big puddle of water on the floor.

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« Reply #5378 on: July 25, 2012, 11:50:03 AM »
How would one pronounce the city name "Syracuse"? Is it seera-cuse or sara-cuse?

I've heard it pronounced both; "sara-cuse" was said that way by someone who lived there.

That's partially why I was wondering. A local on tumblr said "I am so sick of people saying "seera-cuse", it's "sara-cuse"." But I've heard it both ways so I wasn't sure.

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« Reply #5379 on: July 25, 2012, 11:54:50 AM »
How would one pronounce the city name "Syracuse"? Is it seera-cuse or sara-cuse?

I've heard it pronounced both; "sara-cuse" was said that way by someone who lived there.

That's partially why I was wondering. A local on tumblr said "I am so sick of people saying "seera-cuse", it's "sara-cuse"." But I've heard it both ways so I wasn't sure.

The Italian city is seera-cuse. The American city? I won't even try to guess, considering Notre Dame and similar.

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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #5380 on: July 25, 2012, 11:56:14 AM »
After you flush a toilet and the water tank fills, do you notice how the last few seconds the sound seems more "airy" and higher pitched before it stops completely?  Lately our master bathroom toilet will make that sound for no reason.  Just the last 3 seconds or so of water filling up.  I don't know if water is actually flowing when it does this or not.  We've lived here 11 years and this just started.  Is there a valve or something I should check?  Maybe water is slowly leaking out of the tank (that one just occurred to me as I typed this)?

Mine was doing that at well.  It was the water in the tank filling up too much and running into the overflow drain.  I was able to adjust the bulb-float and it hasn't done it since.

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« Reply #5381 on: July 25, 2012, 12:17:10 PM »
How would one pronounce the city name "Syracuse"? Is it seera-cuse or sara-cuse?

I've heard it pronounced both; "sara-cuse" was said that way by someone who lived there.

That's partially why I was wondering. A local on tumblr said "I am so sick of people saying "seera-cuse", it's "sara-cuse"." But I've heard it both ways so I wasn't sure.

The Italian city is seera-cuse. The American city? I won't even try to guess, considering Notre Dame and similar.

The American city in Utah is seera-cuse, but I definitely wouldn't be surprised if the residents of the ones in New York or Kansas pronounce it differently.
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« Reply #5382 on: July 25, 2012, 12:18:35 PM »
How would one pronounce the city name "Syracuse"? Is it seera-cuse or sara-cuse?

I've heard it pronounced both; "sara-cuse" was said that way by someone who lived there.

That's partially why I was wondering. A local on tumblr said "I am so sick of people saying "seera-cuse", it's "sara-cuse"." But I've heard it both ways so I wasn't sure.

Assuming we are referring to the city upstate New York- From living there for 4 years, I would say that the locals actually pronounce it something closer to sere-cuse and almost slur the first and second syllables. That is pretty much the only place I have ever heard it pronounced that way though. In media, it is most commonly pronounced as seera-cuse and I remember being really surprised at the difference between common and local pronunciation when I moved up there.
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« Reply #5383 on: July 25, 2012, 12:24:12 PM »
How would one pronounce the city name "Syracuse"? Is it seera-cuse or sara-cuse?

I've heard it pronounced both; "sara-cuse" was said that way by someone who lived there.

That's partially why I was wondering. A local on tumblr said "I am so sick of people saying "seera-cuse", it's "sara-cuse"." But I've heard it both ways so I wasn't sure.

Assuming we are referring to the city upstate New York- From living there for 4 years, I would say that the locals actually pronounce it something closer to sere-cuse and almost slur the first and second syllables. That is pretty much the only place I have ever heard it pronounced that way though. In media, it is most commonly pronounced as seera-cuse and I remember being really surprised at the difference between common and local pronunciation when I moved up there.

The pronunciation to which I was referring was from the one in New York.  I lived in northwestern PA at the time and it was my uncle.  I remember as a child being excited that there was a city with my name in it!  (I had never seen it written, just had listened to my uncle and cousins pronounce it.)

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« Reply #5384 on: July 25, 2012, 12:25:35 PM »
#1aunt wrote:

"Mine was doing that at well.  It was the water in the tank filling up too much and running into the overflow drain.  I was able to adjust the bulb-float and it hasn't done it since."

That should make the water run constantly, not switch on and off, unless your float is balanced just so that it doesn't quite cut off the supply when the water tops off.  Since this is a new problem with a decade-old toilet, I'd suspect a leak instead of a bad adjustment.

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