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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #5820 on: October 03, 2012, 04:13:01 PM »
Officially labour starts when you are three centimetres dilated. I think that's the point of no return for stopping it. Most women count from the first contraction, although to be fair, unless they are in a hospital, they wouldn't necessarily know how dilated they were. When a doctor or nurse says "You've been in labour for twenty four hours, we're going to have to induce you," that is when they are counting from.

Huh. I'd never heard that before. I was in terrible pain for hours before they were able to admit me (back labor), but I didn't realize they didn't even count labor as starting until that point. That seems very odd to me.


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« Reply #5821 on: October 03, 2012, 08:39:54 PM »
Especially with a second or subsequent baby, you can be quite dilated before labour starts. I think there might also be other ways to be official, like pains X minutes apart as well. My cousin says she was in labour for 32 hours but her first few contractions were half an hour apart, so for 'official' counting, the doctor said eight. If you had contractions five minutes apart for 32 hours with no baby the doctor would be concerned about non-progression of labour, if they were half an hour apart for the first day, its much less of a concern.

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« Reply #5822 on: October 03, 2012, 09:47:01 PM »
Especially with a second or subsequent baby, you can be quite dilated before labour starts.
I know one young woman who was "in labor" by that standard for about 3 weeks.  Her cervix had thinned out, the way it does in very early labor, and was slightly dilated.  Every week her doctor kept saying "Any day now!"  Her mother had a birthing kit packed and in the car, because she had visions of a few good hard contractions and here's the baby being born on the side of the road, long before they got to the hospital.

The young woman made it to the hospital in time, but she was only in contraction-type labor for about 4 hours.
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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #5823 on: October 04, 2012, 07:49:44 AM »
Especially with a second or subsequent baby, you can be quite dilated before labour starts. I think there might also be other ways to be official, like pains X minutes apart as well. My cousin says she was in labour for 32 hours but her first few contractions were half an hour apart, so for 'official' counting, the doctor said eight. If you had contractions five minutes apart for 32 hours with no baby the doctor would be concerned about non-progression of labour, if they were half an hour apart for the first day, its much less of a concern.

Reading these stories reminds my of Rita Rudner's line: I don't even want to do something that feels good for 32 hours!

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« Reply #5824 on: October 04, 2012, 08:17:59 AM »
Especially with a second or subsequent baby, you can be quite dilated before labour starts. I think there might also be other ways to be official, like pains X minutes apart as well. My cousin says she was in labour for 32 hours but her first few contractions were half an hour apart, so for 'official' counting, the doctor said eight. If you had contractions five minutes apart for 32 hours with no baby the doctor would be concerned about non-progression of labour, if they were half an hour apart for the first day, its much less of a concern.

Reading these stories reminds my of Rita Rudner's line: I don't even want to do something that feels good for 32 hours!

That is one of my favorite lines from any comedian ever.  :)
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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #5825 on: October 04, 2012, 08:07:37 PM »
Officially labour starts when you are three centimetres dilated. I think that's the point of no return for stopping it. Most women count from the first contraction, although to be fair, unless they are in a hospital, they wouldn't necessarily know how dilated they were. When a doctor or nurse says "You've been in labour for twenty four hours, we're going to have to induce you," that is when they are counting from.

When the midwives were doing my labour paperwork they actually asked what time I wanted to put down as the start of my labour. They weren't fussed if it was from when I got to contractions 5 mins apart at home, when I got to the hospital or when they checked and I was 3cm dialated. I didn't care at the time, I was in labour! In the end I think they put down the time they checked me since they knew exactly when that was.

Some people count pre labour as labour, others don't, some only count from strong regular contractions, other count from any niggle! It gets a bit confusing.

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« Reply #5826 on: October 04, 2012, 10:36:33 PM »
I take it from when my water breaks. In my case it seems to be getting shorter and shorter 12 hours with my eldest, 6 hours with my middle and 1 hour with my youngest. I swear if i have another i'm camping out at the hospital for the last month.  ;D
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« Reply #5827 on: October 05, 2012, 05:13:32 AM »
I take it from when my water breaks. In my case it seems to be getting shorter and shorter 12 hours with my eldest, 6 hours with my middle and 1 hour with my youngest. I swear if i have another i'm camping out at the hospital for the last month.  ;D

My water didn't break until I was ready to go into the delivery room both times, so that wouldn't work for me!

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« Reply #5828 on: October 05, 2012, 08:45:58 AM »
I take it from when my water breaks. In my case it seems to be getting shorter and shorter 12 hours with my eldest, 6 hours with my middle and 1 hour with my youngest. I swear if i have another i'm camping out at the hospital for the last month.  ;D
I've heard that each subsequent baby takes about half the time that the previous one did, so don't choose a hospital more than 15 minutes away! ;)  15 for DD1, about 6 for DD2 here.
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« Reply #5829 on: October 05, 2012, 09:07:31 AM »
I take it from when my water breaks. In my case it seems to be getting shorter and shorter 12 hours with my eldest, 6 hours with my middle and 1 hour with my youngest. I swear if i have another i'm camping out at the hospital for the last month.  ;D
I've heard that each subsequent baby takes about half the time that the previous one did, so don't choose a hospital more than 15 minutes away! ;)  15 for DD1, about 6 for DD2 here.

My grandmother had 19. She must have in labor about 3 seconds by the last one!

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« Reply #5830 on: October 05, 2012, 09:20:52 AM »
Can we please take the labor discussion to another thread?
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« Reply #5831 on: October 05, 2012, 11:22:05 AM »
Although it seems hard to conceive, perhaps the point is being belabored.
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« Reply #5832 on: October 05, 2012, 04:36:09 PM »
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"There is a sign that says right turn signal in the far right lane and 2 additional lights for the 2 left lanes.  The two lanes are green and the right turn signal is red (next will turn into green arrow, then yellow arrow, then plain red again).  You have to wait for the green arrow regardless of what the other two lanes have right?"

The law of it varies so consult someone in the know for your location, but the general rule is that a right turn signal acts like a regular traffic light, so if right-on-red is legal in your area then turning right on a red arrow is often allowed after a stop (but again, check with a lawyer/officer/whoever to be sure).  The advisory is that if there's a separate traffic signal it's usually because there's a need for the extra traffic control, so be very cautious and look every direction.  When in doubt, do what's safe which is usually waiting for a green signal.

"There was an accident right in front of my house (frankly I'm surprised it took this long...) during rush hour yesterday morning.  Who is supposed to call it in, and who are they supposed to call?  (I called 911, but I'm pretty sure the driver did too though it was too late for me to hang up)."

There's no established rule for who calls in an accident, and if you call in and there are already other reports the 911 operator will usually let you know that and will release your call.  So you should always call if you think there's a need for emergency services.  For a fender-bender, you might want to call the non-emergency police number instead, but if there's any doubt call 911 without fear.

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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #5833 on: October 05, 2012, 06:05:52 PM »
There is a sign that says right turn signal in the far right lane and 2 additional lights for the 2 left lanes.  The two lanes are green and the right turn signal is red (next will turn into green arrow, then yellow arrow, then plain red again).  You have to wait for the green arrow regardless of what the other two lanes have right?
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« Reply #5834 on: October 09, 2012, 05:57:56 PM »
I'm really curious:   Do people really not understand how traffic lights function, or do they understand but still choose to press the button multiple times at the crosswalk just for the heck of it?

There are pretty much two ways that crosswalks at traffic lights work, either way they're synched in with the traffic lights on a preset scheduling with minor variations.  Sometimes the lights will only go if the button has been pressed (you press the button, then at the next scheduled change it will go green) or some will always go as scheduled regardless of if the button is pressed or not.    Either way, pressing the button multiple times does not make the lights change faster.     It's not sending a signal to the lights saying "Quick, stop all the traffic now! Somebody wants to cross!"   ;D   And it's certainly not going "Oh they pressed it again, there must be 10 people waiting, we'll let them go now!".   Personally, I am familiar with the light changes at intersections I cross regularly, so I know from looking at the traffic patterns exactly when the crosswalk is going to go green.  It's not rocket science.  Sometimes I walk up and know that it's nearly time, other times I know that I'm going to have a long wait because I can see the traffic going a certain way and know that "my turn" is awhile away.

If I arrive at the lights to cross I will sometimes press the button even if there is somebody else already waiting there, simply because I've been caught out before in situations where *nobody* has pressed the button and we miss the change.   However, twice this week I've been at the lights and seen the following happen:   Person walks up next to me, presses the button a couple of times.   (Fair enough).   They stand there.  20 seconds later they reach out and press the button a few more times.  Stand there.  30 seconds later again "thwack thwack thwack".     Are they just letting out some frustration?   Or do they really think it's achieving something?   Incidentally, they didn't seem to be in any crazy kind of hurry which might explain it.   Once the lights changed I took off at my normal walking pace and left them miles behind.  In one case the guy was with a lady and they were chatting casually in between his obsessive button pushing.  So it really seems as though they either think they've forgotten and do it again, or they think that somehow the lights have forgotten about them! Is this OTT button pushing just habit, e.g. they're not really thinking about it?
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