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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #7440 on: April 21, 2013, 09:38:19 PM »
Does anyone know the origin of "Don't break the sugar bowl!"  We played it as a game when we were children (somehow, it was a game designed to keep us quiet).  Whoever spoke first "broke the sugar bowl" and lost.  Anyone know the origins of this game or have an inkling where I could find information about it?  If it helps, I grew up in northwestern Pennsylvania.

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« Reply #7441 on: April 21, 2013, 09:51:21 PM »
The name Fiona was supposedly started in Scotland or so I've read. Is it Scottish or Scottish-Gaelic? if the former, does it have a Scottish-Gaelic equivalent, and if so, what is it? I am putting this under stupid questions because I should have been about to figure this out myself but my google-fu in this area is lacking.
It's Gaelic. And good on you for knowing the difference between Scots and Gaelic!  (That's a book peeve of mine, when authors don't know the difference.)

Okay now I'm curious.  What's the difference between Scottish and Scottish-Gaelic?
They're from entirely different language families.  Scots (AKA Lallans) is a dialect/cousin language of English, which is descended from Germanic.  Gaelic is a descendent of Celtic.  You have to go clear back to Indo-European to find a common ancestor.

As a comparison, here is the Lord's Prayer in both Middle Scots (c. 1520) and Scottish Gaelic:

 LORD'S PRAYER
 
 Our fader that art in heuenis,
 hallewit be thi name.
 Thi kingdom cum to.
 Thi wil be done in erde, as in heuen.
 Gefe to vs this day our breid ouer vthir substance.
 And forgif to vs our dettis,
 as we forgef to our dettouris.
 And leid vs nocht into temptatioun,
 bot deliuer vs fra euile.
 
 Amen.


 Urnaigh an Tighearna:
Ar n-Athair a tha air nčamh, gu naomhaichear d'ainm.
Thigeadh do rěochachd. Dčanar do thoil air an talamh, mar a něthear air nčamh.
Tabhair dhuinn an-diugh ar n-aran lŕitheil. Agus maith dhuinn ar fiachan, amhail a mhaitheas sinne dar luchd-fiach.
Agus na leig ann am buaireadh sinn; ach saor sinn o olc;
oir is leatsa an rěoghachd, agus an cumhachd, agus a' ghlňir, gu sěorraidh.
Amen.

You can see how Scots resembles English, but there's nothing recognizable in the Gaelic for us monolinguists.

Thank you for answering my question, Elfmama! Oh, btw, do you speak the language?

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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #7442 on: April 21, 2013, 11:24:35 PM »
The name Fiona was supposedly started in Scotland or so I've read. Is it Scottish or Scottish-Gaelic? if the former, does it have a Scottish-Gaelic equivalent, and if so, what is it? I am putting this under stupid questions because I should have been about to figure this out myself but my google-fu in this area is lacking.
It's Gaelic. And good on you for knowing the difference between Scots and Gaelic!  (That's a book peeve of mine, when authors don't know the difference.)

Okay now I'm curious.  What's the difference between Scottish and Scottish-Gaelic?
They're from entirely different language families.  Scots (AKA Lallans) is a dialect/cousin language of English, which is descended from Germanic.  Gaelic is a descendent of Celtic.  You have to go clear back to Indo-European to find a common ancestor.

As a comparison, here is the Lord's Prayer in both Middle Scots (c. 1520) and Scottish Gaelic:

 LORD'S PRAYER
 
 Our fader that art in heuenis,
 hallewit be thi name.
 Thi kingdom cum to.
 Thi wil be done in erde, as in heuen.
 Gefe to vs this day our breid ouer vthir substance.
 And forgif to vs our dettis,
 as we forgef to our dettouris.
 And leid vs nocht into temptatioun,
 bot deliuer vs fra euile.
 
 Amen.


 Urnaigh an Tighearna:
Ar n-Athair a tha air nčamh, gu naomhaichear d'ainm.
Thigeadh do rěochachd. Dčanar do thoil air an talamh, mar a něthear air nčamh.
Tabhair dhuinn an-diugh ar n-aran lŕitheil. Agus maith dhuinn ar fiachan, amhail a mhaitheas sinne dar luchd-fiach.
Agus na leig ann am buaireadh sinn; ach saor sinn o olc;
oir is leatsa an rěoghachd, agus an cumhachd, agus a' ghlňir, gu sěorraidh.
Amen.

You can see how Scots resembles English, but there's nothing recognizable in the Gaelic for us monolinguists.

Thank you for answering my question, Elfmama! Oh, btw, do you speak the language?
No, I just have a bit of experience with name origins, particularly European names in the Middle Ages/Renaissance.
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« Reply #7443 on: April 21, 2013, 11:30:24 PM »
In an adoption, is the adopted child legally required to take the name of the adoptive parent, or is it just customary?  We have a situation near us where a teen is thinking about allowing his stepfather to adopt him, but doesn't want to lose his original surname. Please note that I'm NOT asking for legal advice here!
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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #7444 on: April 21, 2013, 11:32:25 PM »
In an adoption, is the adopted child legally required to take the name of the adoptive parent, or is it just customary?  We have a situation near us where a teen is thinking about allowing his stepfather to adopt him, but doesn't want to lose his original surname.

Nope, not required at all, although some states do have quirky things about needing extra paperwork for some types of name changes.  When Dan Savage (advice columnist) and his partner adopted their son mumblety-teen years ago, they decided to let their son keep his bio mom's last name instead of taking one or the other of his dads'.

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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #7445 on: April 21, 2013, 11:40:26 PM »
In an adoption, is the adopted child legally required to take the name of the adoptive parent, or is it just customary?  We have a situation near us where a teen is thinking about allowing his stepfather to adopt him, but doesn't want to lose his original surname. Please note that I'm NOT asking for legal advice here!

THIS I can answer with authority.  I was adopted.  My name was never changed.  My bio-mom actually found me twenty one years later due to that!
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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #7446 on: April 22, 2013, 08:08:43 AM »
In an adoption, is the adopted child legally required to take the name of the adoptive parent, or is it just customary?  We have a situation near us where a teen is thinking about allowing his stepfather to adopt him, but doesn't want to lose his original surname.

Nope, not required at all, although some states do have quirky things about needing extra paperwork for some types of name changes.  When Dan Savage (advice columnist) and his partner adopted their son mumblety-teen years ago, they decided to let their son keep his bio mom's last name instead of taking one or the other of his dads'.

It's sort of like a marriage. You're able to change your name as part of the process without having to go through the extra procedures normally attendant with legally changing your name, but it's not automatically changed. You still make the choice to do it and exactly what to change. (I've seen kids change their whole names, kids change their last names only, or kids change first and last but keep their old first name as the middle, etc.)

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« Reply #7447 on: April 22, 2013, 10:42:17 AM »
Towards the end of "Dirty Dancing", at the final dance, Mr. Kellerman comes out on stage and begins to sing.  Then he's joined by the staff dancers and some of the guests (Baby's sister, for one).  Something about "hearts and hands".

For those of you of a certain age, in 1953's Titanic, the college kids and Audrey Dalton also sing the same tune, but with different lyrics, just before the ship hits the iceberg.  So the tune itself must be older than both of those films (and presumably, older than 1963, when DD was set).

What is the name of that tune??

Just for trivia, Audrey Dalton's love interest was none other than Robert Wagner, who seems ageless.  Over 20 years later, there he is again in The Towering Inferno and Hart to Hart.



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« Reply #7448 on: April 22, 2013, 10:45:42 AM »
You should find a sushi place that makes good bite sized pieces, IMO.

I'm in the midwest so "good" sushi doesn't really happen here, LOL. I've been to pretty much every sushi place in town and they all do this. I will try asking them to cut the pieces smaller.
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« Reply #7449 on: April 22, 2013, 11:57:39 AM »
Towards the end of "Dirty Dancing", at the final dance, Mr. Kellerman comes out on stage and begins to sing.  Then he's joined by the staff dancers and some of the guests (Baby's sister, for one).  Something about "hearts and hands".

For those of you of a certain age, in 1953's Titanic, the college kids and Audrey Dalton also sing the same tune, but with different lyrics, just before the ship hits the iceberg.  So the tune itself must be older than both of those films (and presumably, older than 1963, when DD was set).

What is the name of that tune??

Just for trivia, Audrey Dalton's love interest was none other than Robert Wagner, who seems ageless.  Over 20 years later, there he is again in The Towering Inferno and Hart to Hart.
The song from Dirty Dancing is called Kellermans Anthem http://www.lyricsbay.com/kellermans_anthem_lyrics-dirty_dancing_soundtrack.html

The tune is called Annie Lisle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Lisle

The tune is apparently REALLY popular as a school anthem, and has been used by a ton of schools. The tune was featured in Hey Arnold! as the school song of PS-118, according to Wikipedia, in addition to Dirty Dancing and Titanic 1953.

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« Reply #7450 on: April 22, 2013, 01:17:33 PM »
Towards the end of "Dirty Dancing", at the final dance, Mr. Kellerman comes out on stage and begins to sing.  Then he's joined by the staff dancers and some of the guests (Baby's sister, for one).  Something about "hearts and hands".

For those of you of a certain age, in 1953's Titanic, the college kids and Audrey Dalton also sing the same tune, but with different lyrics, just before the ship hits the iceberg.  So the tune itself must be older than both of those films (and presumably, older than 1963, when DD was set).

What is the name of that tune??

Just for trivia, Audrey Dalton's love interest was none other than Robert Wagner, who seems ageless.  Over 20 years later, there he is again in The Towering Inferno and Hart to Hart.

The tune is Cornell's alma mater, along with several other schools (including my high school).  UNlike my high school, Cornell's and Kellerman's is actually grammatically correct.

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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #7451 on: April 22, 2013, 01:27:27 PM »
If you use LinkedIn, how seriously do you take "endorsements" of people's skills?

I have a very bare-bones LinkedIn profile with a few connections. Recently I got a invitation to connect from another grad student at my university and accepted it today. Although he is in the same department as I am, he is in a different sub-discipline and I know him only through an extracurricular club that has nothing to do with our field. (Think electrical engineers who only know each other through underwater basket weaving.) I just got a notification that he endorsed most of the skills that I had listed in my profile, plus adding endorsements for several additional skills that I did not have listed. Some of which are totally false. Not just in the sense that he would have no knowledge of my skills in that area or with that software, but in the sense that I have never used the specified software in my life. Of course, I declined to add those endorsements to my profile, but now I'm wondering if the endorsement system has any meaning or if this kind of empty endorsement is common?

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« Reply #7452 on: April 22, 2013, 02:03:42 PM »
If you use LinkedIn, how seriously do you take "endorsements" of people's skills?

I have a very bare-bones LinkedIn profile with a few connections. Recently I got a invitation to connect from another grad student at my university and accepted it today. Although he is in the same department as I am, he is in a different sub-discipline and I know him only through an extracurricular club that has nothing to do with our field. (Think electrical engineers who only know each other through underwater basket weaving.) I just got a notification that he endorsed most of the skills that I had listed in my profile, plus adding endorsements for several additional skills that I did not have listed. Some of which are totally false. Not just in the sense that he would have no knowledge of my skills in that area or with that software, but in the sense that I have never used the specified software in my life. Of course, I declined to add those endorsements to my profile, but now I'm wondering if the endorsement system has any meaning or if this kind of empty endorsement is common?

AFAIK, it is. Some of my skills have been 'endorsed' by people on LinkedIn who would have absolutely no way of knowing if I even know them (i.e. - a church friend endorsed my CMMI skills - which I learned AFTER she left the church, and which I'd have no reason to use at church).

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« Reply #7453 on: April 22, 2013, 04:44:06 PM »
How seriously do I take endorsements? With a huge grain of salt. For every person who will just do blanket positive endorsements there are several more people who won't. So if i see someone's profile and they are endorsed for 20+ skills, and many of them are only 1 or two people doing the endorsing, i discount those skills, but they there might be another skill, relevant to the person's career path with 20+ people endorsing the page owner for, well that I'm more inclined to believe.

For example I have never done "copy editing" I'm not even 100% sure what the job entails. 2 people, whom I have never worked with, have endorsed me for copy editing.  ::) Those same two people have endorsed me for dozens of skills. But I have done event planning, at two separate companies for a combined total of over a decade. Two dozen people, many of whom have the same employers on their profile as I have on mine, have endorsed me for "event planning" and little to nothing else. So IMO its pretty obvious which skill I actually have and which skill is just something a few friends are confident I could learn.

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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #7454 on: April 23, 2013, 12:29:28 AM »
I don't take endorsements at all seriously; I have some that are, at best, "this person knows me and trusts that I wouldn't claim a skill I don't have," rather than them having any more direct evidence of my skills, like having worked on a project together.
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