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« Reply #7485 on: April 25, 2013, 03:11:28 AM »
Ok I never thought anything of the "evil" part to the word, but I've also never heard "medieval" pronounced in some other way that didn't sound like mid-evil.

I just thought that was the word, like how I never thought words the end in a "tion" sound like education, mediation, or celebration had any association with "shun" or shunning someone. I never associated medieval with evil, but its definitely the way the end of the word sounds IME.

Same here. I've always pronounced it "mid-evil." I've never heard a difference in pronunciation, either.

I've never heard "mid-evil" as the pronunciation. How odd! I've only ever heard "medi-evil".

It was traditionally spelled "mediaeval" (with that ligature thing that I don't know how to type), so the i and the e should not be run together into a single sound, keeping it as a four-syllable word. It's from the Latin, medium aevum, literally "middle age". Nothing to do with evil, although I like that idea more. It implies a "maxevil" age, or something, and I'd love to know when that was.

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« Reply #7486 on: April 25, 2013, 03:56:21 AM »
Similarly, I've noticed a lot of people writing 'thot' instead of 'thought'.

Is that worse or just as bad as "I should of known"?

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« Reply #7487 on: April 25, 2013, 04:16:16 AM »
Ok I never thought anything of the "evil" part to the word, but I've also never heard "medieval" pronounced in some other way that didn't sound like mid-evil.

I just thought that was the word, like how I never thought words the end in a "tion" sound like education, mediation, or celebration had any association with "shun" or shunning someone. I never associated medieval with evil, but its definitely the way the end of the word sounds IME.

Same here. I've always pronounced it "mid-evil." I've never heard a difference in pronunciation, either.

I've never heard "mid-evil" as the pronunciation. How odd! I've only ever heard "medi-evil".

It was traditionally spelled "mediaeval" (with that ligature thing that I don't know how to type), so the i and the e should not be run together into a single sound, keeping it as a four-syllable word. It's from the Latin, medium aevum, literally "middle age". Nothing to do with evil, although I like that idea more. It implies a "maxevil" age, or something, and I'd love to know when that was.

The '80s. Did you SEE those perms? Work of the devil, every one of them.

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« Reply #7488 on: April 25, 2013, 05:47:26 AM »
I've never heard "mid-evil" as the pronunciation. How odd! I've only ever heard "medi-evil".

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« Reply #7489 on: April 25, 2013, 07:21:37 AM »


While as Mental Magpie notes, itís not just the accent, it can be not knowing, my SO, with his central NY accent does not pronounce them differently, and as much as I correct him (and all his teachers, etc), he says that he just canít grasp the difference in writing, because he says them the same. With my midwest accent, they sound different.

Hey this is exciting a word pronunciation difference that I make. (pen/pin and Mary/merry/marry are all the same - and since one of these is my given name, I'd be sensitive to it.  I did receive school Valentines to both Merry and Marry at different times :))

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« Reply #7490 on: April 25, 2013, 08:22:16 AM »
Perhaps this is more one for the pronunciation thread, but in my interactions with Americans on various forums I've noticed several of them writing the word 'then' instead of 'than'. For example: 'My car is bigger then yours'.

Are the two words pronounced the same and if so I wonder if so whether people are writing them phonetically? I honestly can't see how the two words could be mixed up any other way and I notice it often enough for it not to be a quirk with one person.
I'm an American who pronounces these words differently.  Then has an e sound.  Than has an a sound.  I don't notice when people say both of them with an e sound but I'd find it odd for someone to pronounce Then with an a sound.  I learned how to pronounce and spell them in school in south Jersey (southern New Jersey ;D).  I've tried to explain the spelling difference to my mid-western DH but he can never remember which is which.  I've wondered about this because I think that he pronounces them slightly different too.

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« Reply #7491 on: April 25, 2013, 09:00:03 AM »
Then and when have the same sound and than and pan have the same sound to me.  But I don't hear a difference between Mary, marry and merry.

From a book I was reading this morning, how do you pronounce 'caulk' (as in caulking around a window).  For me, it rhymes with dock.  Sometimes there is the slightest hint of the 'l' in there but not usually.
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« Reply #7492 on: April 25, 2013, 09:10:20 AM »
Then and when have the same sound and than and pan have the same sound to me.  But I don't hear a difference between Mary, marry and merry.

From a book I was reading this morning, how do you pronounce 'caulk' (as in caulking around a window).  For me, it rhymes with dock.  Sometimes there is the slightest hint of the 'l' in there but not usually.

For me, it rhymes with "squawk" or "Awk".  More an "Awwww" sound than the "ah" of dock.



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« Reply #7493 on: April 25, 2013, 09:39:23 AM »
Then and when have the same sound and than and pan have the same sound to me.  But I don't hear a difference between Mary, marry and merry.

From a book I was reading this morning, how do you pronounce 'caulk' (as in caulking around a window).  For me, it rhymes with dock.  Sometimes there is the slightest hint of the 'l' in there but not usually.

For me, it rhymes with "squawk" or "Awk".  More an "Awwww" sound than the "ah" of dock.

Same here.
Caulk, walk, squawk, hawk.
Clock, stock, mock, jock.

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« Reply #7494 on: April 25, 2013, 09:48:10 AM »
Then and when have the same sound and than and pan have the same sound to me.  But I don't hear a difference between Mary, marry and merry.

From a book I was reading this morning, how do you pronounce 'caulk' (as in caulking around a window).  For me, it rhymes with dock.  Sometimes there is the slightest hint of the 'l' in there but not usually.

For me, it rhymes with "squawk" or "Awk".  More an "Awwww" sound than the "ah" of dock.

Same here.
Caulk, walk, squawk, hawk.
Clock, stock, mock, jock.

Those all sound the same to me.
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« Reply #7495 on: April 25, 2013, 01:08:21 PM »
Caulk sounds like Cork to me.  As in wine cork. I got very confused when I started diy to be told to put cork on my coving.  Made sense when I got to the store and saw the spelling. The above discussion made me think.  Does anyone else 'see' words instead of hear them?

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« Reply #7496 on: April 25, 2013, 02:28:17 PM »
perpetua wrote:

"Similarly, I've noticed a lot of people writing 'thot' instead of 'thought'."

I always saw that as a way to speed up texting that just has the side benefit of being easier to spell.

I always pronounce "caulk" like the "L" is silent, and the "au" sound is different from a flat-A "ah" sound.

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"Those all sound the same to me."

"Walk" and "jock" have the same vowel sound to you?  I'd be curious to hear your accent, then.  I've never heard any accent that would make those two words sound like a full rhyme.

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« Reply #7497 on: April 25, 2013, 02:33:04 PM »
You haven't talked to many rural Canadians, then.   ;D

I've had Americans tell me that my accent is 'adorable'.

I've just been saying 'walk' and 'jock' to myself.  There is a very, very, very slight difference in pronunciation which I probably can only identify because I'm concentrating on it.  Merry, Mary and marry all sound the same, to me, too.
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« Reply #7498 on: April 25, 2013, 02:36:36 PM »

I've had Americans tell me that my accent is 'adorable'.


There is something hilariously cute about some Canadian accents. No other accent amuses me as much. And its not all Canadian accents, its just some people. (The guidance counselor in Todd and the Book of Evil for example has such a funny accent, no other characters on the show have it though.)

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« Reply #7499 on: April 25, 2013, 02:39:03 PM »
I love an East Coast accent, myself.  There is a real difference between somebody from Newfoundland and the rest of the Maritimes that I can usually pick up on.  Cape Bretoners have a different lilt, too, that I love.  Rita McNeil, who recently passed away, and the Rankins are good examples.
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