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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #8610 on: October 23, 2013, 07:18:55 PM »
Soldier can also mean "gangster" or "thug" and soul also sometimes means "street cred" so they could be saying they have street cred (or are well known) but that they aren't a thug/gangster.  Do you remember who the artist was?

The song is called "All These Things That I've Done" and it's by the Killers.  I love this song and most of the lyrics but I admit their lyrics can be hit and miss.  This is the same group that coined the eyeroll-worthy "Are we human, or are we dancer?"

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« Reply #8611 on: October 23, 2013, 07:29:50 PM »

That awful song "All These Things That I've Done" says over and over, ďIíve got soul, but Iím not a soldier.Ē What kind of word play is that? Itís not a pun, right? Gish asked me this morning because we were lucky  ::) enough to hear it on the radio and I really donít know.

I never heard the song before, but even before I looked it up on youtube, I immediately thought "I've got soul" meaning I've got feelings, "But I'm not a soldier" meaning I'm not a fighter.

After watching the video? I think the above stands. But I do agree, it is pretty awful.

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« Reply #8612 on: October 23, 2013, 07:43:20 PM »
Soldier can also mean "gangster" or "thug" and soul also sometimes means "street cred" so they could be saying they have street cred (or are well known) but that they aren't a thug/gangster.  Do you remember who the artist was?

The song is called "All These Things That I've Done" and it's by the Killers.  I love this song and most of the lyrics but I admit their lyrics can be hit and miss.  This is the same group that coined the eyeroll-worthy "Are we human, or are we dancer?"

The lyric is "are we human, or are we denser?"

Not that it makes a lick more sense that way. And I thought it was "dancer" until my cousin bought a guitar tab book that had the song in it.

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« Reply #8613 on: October 23, 2013, 07:47:43 PM »
Soldier can also mean "gangster" or "thug" and soul also sometimes means "street cred" so they could be saying they have street cred (or are well known) but that they aren't a thug/gangster.  Do you remember who the artist was?

The song is called "All These Things That I've Done" and it's by the Killers.  I love this song and most of the lyrics but I admit their lyrics can be hit and miss.  This is the same group that coined the eyeroll-worthy "Are we human, or are we dancer?"

The lyric is "are we human, or are we denser?"

Not that it makes a lick more sense that way. And I thought it was "dancer" until my cousin bought a guitar tab book that had the song in it.

I think the website of the band officially lists "dancer" but either way it definitely don't make any sense.

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« Reply #8614 on: October 23, 2013, 07:51:50 PM »
Soldier can also mean "gangster" or "thug" and soul also sometimes means "street cred" so they could be saying they have street cred (or are well known) but that they aren't a thug/gangster.  Do you remember who the artist was?

The song is called "All These Things That I've Done" and it's by the Killers.  I love this song and most of the lyrics but I admit their lyrics can be hit and miss.  This is the same group that coined the eyeroll-worthy "Are we human, or are we dancer?"

The lyric is "are we human, or are we denser?"

Not that it makes a lick more sense that way. And I thought it was "dancer" until my cousin bought a guitar tab book that had the song in it.

I think the website of the band officially lists "dancer" but either way it definitely don't make any sense.

Really? Guess the book got it wrong then. It was endorsed by the record company too.

Alternately: The Killers think its hilarious to incite flame wars among their fans. (Not that this is one. But YouTube is full of people howling at each other what the lyric "really" is).

Now Im imagining the vocalist switching what word he used in each refrain for the lulz. And it still makes no sense.

I need to go listen to my iPod awhile. I wanna hear both of those songs.

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« Reply #8615 on: October 24, 2013, 09:08:37 AM »
Soldier can also mean "gangster" or "thug" and soul also sometimes means "street cred" so they could be saying they have street cred (or are well known) but that they aren't a thug/gangster.  Do you remember who the artist was?

I think that's probably the most likely interpretation, using "soul" and "soldier" in the urban sense.
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« Reply #8616 on: October 24, 2013, 11:21:16 AM »

Thanks yíall. I think maybe homophone was what I was thinking.
I have no idea what the line means. When I was looking up the wordplay it was suggested on a few boards that it meant he has soul/passion for (whatever) but not enough to fight for it.
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« Reply #8617 on: October 24, 2013, 04:42:49 PM »
There have been many discussions about the word "pompatus" though the years, after Steve Miller made reference to "the pompatus of love" in a song.  In the end, after more than a decade of fans searching for what the true meaning of the phrase was, he told people that he invented the word.

I suspect that the "soul/soldier" line we've been discussing exists mostly because the two words sound the same and "what he meant" is something tacked on after the fact.

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« Reply #8618 on: October 24, 2013, 06:33:28 PM »
Soldier can also mean "gangster" or "thug" and soul also sometimes means "street cred" so they could be saying they have street cred (or are well known) but that they aren't a thug/gangster.  Do you remember who the artist was?

The song is called "All These Things That I've Done" and it's by the Killers.  I love this song and most of the lyrics but I admit their lyrics can be hit and miss.  This is the same group that coined the eyeroll-worthy "Are we human, or are we dancer?"

The lyric is "are we human, or are we denser?"

Not that it makes a lick more sense that way. And I thought it was "dancer" until my cousin bought a guitar tab book that had the song in it.

Here's an interview with Brandon Flowers about the "Are we human or are we dancer" lyric.

I sometimes suspect that thinking too much about the Killers' lyrics will lead to madness.   :)

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« Reply #8619 on: October 25, 2013, 10:21:05 AM »
Soldier can also mean "gangster" or "thug" and soul also sometimes means "street cred" so they could be saying they have street cred (or are well known) but that they aren't a thug/gangster.  Do you remember who the artist was?

The song is called "All These Things That I've Done" and it's by the Killers.  I love this song and most of the lyrics but I admit their lyrics can be hit and miss.  This is the same group that coined the eyeroll-worthy "Are we human, or are we dancer?"

The lyric is "are we human, or are we denser?"

Not that it makes a lick more sense that way. And I thought it was "dancer" until my cousin bought a guitar tab book that had the song in it.

Here's an interview with Brandon Flowers about the "Are we human or are we dancer" lyric.

I sometimes suspect that thinking too much about the Killers' lyrics will lead to madness.   :)

Agreed. I love their music, but it's one of the groups that I just don't think about it too much. That way lies madness.

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« Reply #8620 on: October 25, 2013, 02:10:40 PM »
No, no, no - "Our House" - THAT way lies Madness.   ;D

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« Reply #8621 on: October 25, 2013, 02:13:23 PM »
No, no, no - "Our House" - THAT way lies Madness.   ;D

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« Reply #8622 on: October 25, 2013, 02:46:07 PM »
So I keep running this around in my head and I have potential answers but thought I'd poll a larger pool than, myself.

Why can't I get a DVR that works like VCR's of old (or even the DVD player that could record too).  You buy a piece of equipment, fiddle with attaching this to that, synchronize clocks, and it records your show at a given time.  As far as I can find on Amazon, and the installation dude told me (so he might have another agenda), You can only do DVR on a subscription base.
Why?

THis is something I might use once a month; and a lifetime has taught me that I will survive missing an episode.  I don't want to pay $20+ a month for the little use I would get. 

I also just got very basic DSL television package.  SO basic that both the store I went into, and the guy installing didn't know they had this basic a package.  Broadcast channels and QVC is what I get.  So if not a Luddite, I am still not really up with the Jones's.

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« Reply #8623 on: October 25, 2013, 03:03:34 PM »
That's why I don't own a DVR.  If I wanted to pay a subscription, I'd get a cable or satellite package that includes the DVR.  Only thing that I can figure is that the producing companies  want to be sure that they get a cut of the royalties.  I guess Tivo makes enough on the subscription that they can afford to lose Luddites like us.   ???

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« Reply #8624 on: October 25, 2013, 03:18:04 PM »
So I keep running this around in my head and I have potential answers but thought I'd poll a larger pool than, myself.

Why can't I get a DVR that works like VCR's of old (or even the DVD player that could record too).  You buy a piece of equipment, fiddle with attaching this to that, synchronize clocks, and it records your show at a given time.  As far as I can find on Amazon, and the installation dude told me (so he might have another agenda), You can only do DVR on a subscription base.
Why?

THis is something I might use once a month; and a lifetime has taught me that I will survive missing an episode.  I don't want to pay $20+ a month for the little use I would get. 

I also just got very basic DSL television package.  SO basic that both the store I went into, and the guy installing didn't know they had this basic a package.  Broadcast channels and QVC is what I get.  So if not a Luddite, I am still not really up with the Jones's.

I am betting the subscription is to cover costs of maintaining the program database - all the DVRs you buy aren't typically set up to record like a VCR - they don't just Channel 12 from 8am to 10am, they record Show X, which is scheduled on Channel 12 from 8am to 10am. And knowing what shows are on which channels at whatever times (and which episode of each show is airing on each date/time) requires maintaining a central database, which each DVR using that service contacts on a regular basis to update its local listing.

I am sure that a DVR that works like a VCR is entirely possible, but you'd probably have to make it yourself (or get one to do it for you), maybe repurposing an old computer with a nice big hard drive. I wonder if there's any software out there to do that...
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