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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #8955 on: January 30, 2014, 02:02:55 PM »
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"According to my vehicle's computer, idling uses far more gas than actually driving.  It is also more polluting because it doesn't burn the gas fully.  It can be very hard on the engine and not recommended.  My vehicle also has synthetic oil and it is recommended to only let it idle for a few seconds, even when it is cold."

I'm guessing that this comes from the computer trying to calculate gas mileage from a non-moving car and that will make it report poor efficiency because idling means fuel burned for no movement.  However, an engine at idle will burn a lot less fuel in a given time than an engine in a moving car.  It is more polluting specifically due to the reason you mentioned, but as to it being hard on the engine in most cases it's really not.  There are situations where it can cause problems if you idle for excessive periods for many years (like a taxicab or police cruiser) but for most people they just don't idle a car long enough to cause any sort of problem other than fuel waste and increased emissions.  The recommendation on synthetic oil isn't meant to be a warning so much as an assurance that it's not necessary to idle the engine as long to get it to optimum viscosity, unlike natural motor oil that can lose viscosity (and therefore the ability to protect engine parts) more readily in cold conditions.

"If I get stuck in traffic and it is obvious that it is going to be a while before I move, like when I get stuck at a train crossing, I'll actually turn the car off."

That's still a good idea just because of the fuel waste issue.  Gasoline ain't cheap.  :)

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Re: The "This Might Be A Stupid Question, But...." Thread
« Reply #8956 on: January 31, 2014, 11:35:22 AM »
I have to admit my ignorance regarding something in english, all the Ms, Mrs and Mr used to call someone.
Can I have the full word for those please?

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« Reply #8957 on: January 31, 2014, 11:37:02 AM »
I have to admit my ignorance regarding something in english, all the Ms, Mrs and Mr used to call someone.
Can I have the full word for those please?

Mister
Mistress (We says misses)
Miss (usually pronounced miz as in miserable)

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« Reply #8958 on: January 31, 2014, 11:50:26 AM »
I have to admit my ignorance regarding something in english, all the Ms, Mrs and Mr used to call someone.
Can I have the full word for those please?

Mr. - Mister. M/Monsieur in French.
Mrs. - Missus or Mistress. Mme/Madam in French.
Ms. - no long form that I know of in English. It is used instead of Miss or Mrs. as a title for an adult woman. I think in French you would just use Miss or Mademoiselle.
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« Reply #8959 on: January 31, 2014, 11:51:48 AM »
I have to admit my ignorance regarding something in english, all the Ms, Mrs and Mr used to call someone.
Can I have the full word for those please?

Ms is usually pronounced "miz" and indicates a woman who does not wish to be 'identified' by her marital status.
Mrs. is pronounced "misses" and indicates a married woman.
Miss (which you did not ask about) indicates an adult woman who is not married or a young girl.
Mr. always refers to a man whether he is married or not, and is pronounced "mister".

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« Reply #8960 on: January 31, 2014, 12:01:38 PM »
I have to admit my ignorance regarding something in english, all the Ms, Mrs and Mr used to call someone.
Can I have the full word for those please?

Ms is usually pronounced "miz" and indicates a woman who does not wish to be 'identified' by her marital status.
Mrs. is pronounced "misses" and indicates a married woman.
Miss (which you did not ask about) indicates an adult woman who is not married or a young girl.
Mr. always refers to a man whether he is married or not, and is pronounced "mister".
And Miss is for an unmarried woman.  Miss is also used in the southern US with a woman's first name as a form of respect, whether or not she is married.  For example, "Miss Cynthia baked these cookies".  Or "Miss Lana invited us for dinner".

I live in an area where there are a lot of people who moved here from the south so I hear it frequently.

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« Reply #8961 on: January 31, 2014, 12:05:53 PM »
I have to admit my ignorance regarding something in english, all the Ms, Mrs and Mr used to call someone.
Can I have the full word for those please?

Mister
Mistress (We says misses)
Miss (usually pronounced miz as in miserable)

"Miss" varies by region. In some areas, it with "hiss," but in the South, it's "miz." Which is how "Ms." is also pronounced.

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« Reply #8962 on: January 31, 2014, 12:09:30 PM »
I have to admit my ignorance regarding something in english, all the Ms, Mrs and Mr used to call someone.
Can I have the full word for those please?

Mister
Mistress (We says misses)
Miss (usually pronounced miz as in miserable)

And Ms (pronounced Miz) was developed so that you didn't have to identify if you were married or not.  Mistress (Mrs) means married, Miss means not.  As far as I know, it doesn't stand for anything.

I usually pronounce Miss the way it is spelled, as in missing the mark on something.
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« Reply #8963 on: January 31, 2014, 01:19:13 PM »
Mrs. is short for Mistress, which is just the feminine form of  "Master."

IIRC, a woman could become a Mrs. by heading a household, managing an inn, things like that. So "Mrs." did not necessarily mean "married" - it just meant "In charge."

It's just that the way things worked out, women eventually only became "in charge" of a household by getting married, so the two meanings became conflated.
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« Reply #8964 on: January 31, 2014, 02:05:50 PM »
Worth noting that "Ms." is the preferred form of address for business correspondence when you know you're addressing a woman but you don't know if she has a different preferred form of address.  It's also frequently used by divorced women (whether or not they use their maiden or former husband's name) to avoid the whole "I can't still be Mrs. Smith when my husband remarried and now there's a new one" thing.  Also useful for lesbians in committed relationships who don't have a good answer to the "are you married?" question (given the varying laws in different US states).

Re: the "Miss" thing:

In the US Southeast, children generally call adult women "Miss Firstname" except for their schoolteachers, who are usually Miss/Mrs./Ms. Lastname.  In the rest of the US, children call all adult women Miss/Mrs./Ms. Lastname unless told otherwise (like "dad's girlfriend" or "very close family friend").  Some of that carries over - I'm 32, but there are still a few adults I'd call Miss/Mrs./Ms. Lastname, because that's what I called them when I was a kid and it would be weird to think of them by their give names  :)

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« Reply #8965 on: January 31, 2014, 04:14:21 PM »
Someone told me, not sure if it's true or not, that in Emgland it was common to call the first unmarried daughter Miss LastName until she married and her sisters were called Miss FirstName.

So, with the Bennet sisters, Jane was Miss Bennet, and the others were Miss Elizabeth, Miss Mary, Miss Kitty and Miss Lydia.

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« Reply #8966 on: January 31, 2014, 04:37:36 PM »
Someone told me, not sure if it's true or not, that in Emgland it was common to call the first unmarried daughter Miss LastName until she married and her sisters were called Miss FirstName.

So, with the Bennet sisters, Jane was Miss Bennet, and the others were Miss Elizabeth, Miss Mary, Miss Kitty and Miss Lydia.

I have also heard that, and that it would be similar on the male side as well. So in an alternate universe, James would be Master Bennet, and the others Master Edward, Master Mark, Master Charles, and Master Lysander. After reaching the age of majority, they would become Mr. Bennet, etc.

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« Reply #8967 on: January 31, 2014, 05:22:24 PM »
Someone told me, not sure if it's true or not, that in Emgland it was common to call the first unmarried daughter Miss LastName until she married and her sisters were called Miss FirstName.

So, with the Bennet sisters, Jane was Miss Bennet, and the others were Miss Elizabeth, Miss Mary, Miss Kitty and Miss Lydia.

I have also heard that, and that it would be similar on the male side as well. So in an alternate universe, James would be Master Bennet, and the others Master Edward, Master Mark, Master Charles, and Master Lysander. After reaching the age of majority, they would become Mr. Bennet, etc.
And we wouldn't have had the novel, as they're all boys.

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« Reply #8968 on: January 31, 2014, 05:28:42 PM »
Someone told me, not sure if it's true or not, that in Emgland it was common to call the first unmarried daughter Miss LastName until she married and her sisters were called Miss FirstName.

So, with the Bennet sisters, Jane was Miss Bennet, and the others were Miss Elizabeth, Miss Mary, Miss Kitty and Miss Lydia.

I have also heard that, and that it would be similar on the male side as well. So in an alternate universe, James would be Master Bennet, and the others Master Edward, Master Mark, Master Charles, and Master Lysander. After reaching the age of majority, they would become Mr. Bennet, etc.
And we wouldn't have had the novel, as they're all boys.

You don't think that young Mr. Edward Bennet might have run into Miss Darcy? Of course, in her case, as a female, I'm not sure if she'd still be the sole heir of the estate or if she'd have to share with her sister (and, of course, if Georgiana were George, then there goes Pemberly alltogether)

I'm not sure it would have been as good a book, but I'd pay to read it :)

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« Reply #8969 on: January 31, 2014, 05:54:07 PM »
Someone told me, not sure if it's true or not, that in Emgland it was common to call the first unmarried daughter Miss LastName until she married and her sisters were called Miss FirstName.

So, with the Bennet sisters, Jane was Miss Bennet, and the others were Miss Elizabeth, Miss Mary, Miss Kitty and Miss Lydia.

That was part of the rules about titled gentry.  It wasn't just to be difficult; the social etiquette helped you know the moment you were introduced to someone exactly what their social standing was, whether they'd inherit, etc.  It was kind of a bigger deal than now because for those from the upper classes, there were really a limited number of potential marriage partners - no point wasting time flirting with someone whom you won't be socially allowed to marry in the first place.