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Lexophile

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Another fudged-up holiday (LONG VENT)
« on: December 27, 2006, 03:30:44 PM »
I apologize to everyone in advance for how long this post is. I really just needed to get this off my chest. I've had a rough year with relatives and reading back on it now, I know full well that I set myself up for this whole thing by agreeing to go along with it in the first place. My in-laws are usually great to me and I hate that things got so tense this year, but I was left wondering when I get to take a holiday after this whole thing. Really, I'm kind of depressed about it, so please be kind in your replies. I was brought up to be a people-pleaser and to be patient with the elderly, but I have to ask at what point is it ok to draw a line.

OK, here's the backstory. My parents live in another state, so it's expensive/inconvenient to go and spend every holiday with them (which, after the Thanksgiving we had at their house, turns out not to be such a bad thing). My in-laws live about an hour south of us in the same state, so we usually spend holidays with them - not EVERY holiday, but most of the time, my MIL can convince my DH that we need to be down there with them. They are getting on in years, so I haven't made a fuss about wanting a holiday to ourselves. About three years ago, we headed down to their house for Thanksgiving, even though DH was suffering from a severe sinus infection, because "It would break Mom's heart if we cancel." We get there only to discover that Mom was sick as a dog and couldn't get off her armchair to finish cooking the huge elaborate dinner she started for the four of us (my FIL is completely useless, always has been, thinks everyone else is there to wait on him hand and foot). DH went straight to bed and ILs sat in front of the TV while I finished cooking everything because nobody else expressed any willingness to do it. I served dinner, I cleaned up everything afterwards, everyone thanked me profusely, and I said to everyone, "You are very welcome." I mentioned later before we left to come back home that, if anyone was sick next year, we all need to know ahead of time so that we could either A) scale back the dinner and save the back of the person who would end up finishing it, or B) postpone the dinner until everyone was feeling better so that we could ALL enjoy the occasion. From that day forward EVERY HOLIDAY we plan on spending at the ILs' house ends up with MIL getting deathly ill and not being able to cook. When we call ahead of time and ask how she's doing, she tells us she's feeling great, has everything ready, can't wait to see us, then suddenly she is too sick to handle it when we get down there. I don't know why I expected that this year would be any different.

So - I'm in touch with her four days before we are due to go down there, and she's telling me, "Oh, I feel alright. I'm a little weak, but I think it's just the weather (we live in Colorado and last week was when we got all that snow). I have a call in to my doctor to get an appointment and see what's going on." Every day thereafter, I'm calling her to check up on her. Is she feeling alright? I really think we should scale down what we planned to do for dinner because I don't want her making herself sicker. No, she insisted that a ham, yams, corn, peas, salad, new potatos, crescent rolls, cole slaw, and special stuffing was not too complicated for a FOUR-PERSON DINNER (I didn't mention the THREE WHOLE PIES she bought - like one pie wouldn't be enough for four people). I kept saying, "Well, we'll see." I have to say here that DH was out of town on business and got stuck in South Bend, Indiana, which is why he wasn't calling here regularly. He had a two-day drive back to Denver because of the airport problems.

So she calls my husband the morning we're supposed to go down there to tell him she's sicker than a dog AGAIN and she's been in touch with the doctor and he thinks she might be having kidney problems. Someone please tell me - WHY IN THE WORLD DID I AGREE TO GO DOWN THERE AFTER SHE TOLD US SHE WAS SICK?! I love my MIL. She is usually a dear, sweet woman, and I would have no problem at all cooking ALL of the holiday dinners if A) the menu was left up to me and  B) SOMEBODY lifted a finger to help. I asked DH, "Do you think we should go at all if she's so sick? She'll want to entertain us and will probably end up hurting herself." Of course, the response was, "We should probably go down there just to give her a break and take care of her for a little while." We. Like he is going to help at all. He's already whining about the onset of another sinus infection.

But he won't hear of not going down there because his Mom is sick and she needs "our" help. So I silently rode in the car all the way down, knowing full well what I was in for and not saying a word about it. We got there and, sure enough, the house was FILTHY, MIL was laid out on her recliner, FIL was barking orders at her, and DH plopped himself down in front of the TV. I found a book and went upstairs to the guest bedroom to read. The first night goes alright, with me and MIL making Christmas Eve dinner together (it was lasagna, which is DH's favorite) and everybody getting along for the most part. We sent DH on a grocery run and he came back with almost everything on the list, so I was beginning to think that Christmas Day might not turn out so bad.

I didn't expect much on Christmas morning. With DH's marathon drive back home, he didn't have the time to shop for a present for me (even though he bought me several the week before and I said many times that it was enough and he shouldn't worry about it) to open on Christmas morning. Everyone seemed to enjoy their presents. Then it was time for breakfast. We ate the coffee cake MIL had purchased, and she asked my FIL if he would drink a glass of orange juice. Now, FIL is a spoiled child. He refuses to eat anything green. He refuses to follow the vet's orders and stop feeding their obese dog from the table. He outright refuses to do anything for anyone else, and expects MIL to do everything for him. So she's sitting there, supposedly sick as a dog, and asks him to have a glass of orange juice because it would be good for him. Without a word, he snaps his fingers and points at the refrigerator. She says, "OK. I'll get it for you." I turn around in my seat and say, "Sit." So then I get up and pour the infant some orange juice, only to to have my husband say, "Sweetheart, while you're up, could you warm up my coffee?" I whirl around, pour more coffee, then FIL tells MIL to get him a donut (the donut box is within his own reach and out of reach of my MIL). To which she replies, "Talk to Deb." I pretended I didn't hear, announced that I was going to take a shower, then walked out of the room.

I took my shower and went downstairs to read because I didn't want to watch ANOTHER football game, and pretty soon lunchtime rolled around. I didn't want to eat a full lunch because I wanted to have a bigger dinner, so I got some crackers for myself and settled down to nosh. DH is working on MIL's computer in the other room and says, "Hey, how about some of that leftover lasagna?" I didn't answer. "Hon?" he asked a minute later, "Yes?" I replied. "How about some of that leftover lasagna?" obviously, he wanted me to get him some. Stupid, idiot, people-pleaser me, I get up and walk upstairs to heat up his stupid lasagna. I have the thing unwrapped on the counter, and FIL comes into the kitchen and stands over the lasagna, staring at it until I ask him, "Dad, do you want some lasagna too?" He says yes, so I cut him a square. I then go back downstairs to ask Mom if she wants some too. Of course she does. So I serve everyone's lunch, then go upstairs to put away the blasted lasagna. I'm cleaning up and DH comes upstairs to the kitchen asking if I got any. I said, "I didn't want any, but thanks for asking." To which he finally recognizes what's going on and showers me with thanks for fixing everyone lasagna.

MIL came back upstairs to work on her coin collection and I sat with her, talking and eating my crackers while she worked. It was pleasant enough until FIL came upstairs to stuff another donut in his face. There were four crackers left in the package I had opened. He asked me if I liked them. I said, "Yeah, they fit the bill." He says, "Could you do me a favor and hand me those last four." I said, "No. I'm going to eat them." He said, "What's that?" I said, "No, those are mine and I plan to eat them. If you want some, there are several unopened packages on top of the fridge. You can open a new package. These are mine." So he pulls down a new package, holds it out to me, and says, "I don't want a whole package. I will trade you this package for those four crackers." I slammed my book shut, threw my four measly crackers in front of him, stuffed the unopened package back into the box, and said, "I don't want a whole package either." I turned my back to grab my book again and he said, "Chicken." I turned around, looked him straight in the eye, and said, "I'm not a chicken, Dean. I don't want a whole package either. That's why I wanted to only eat those four more crackers. They were mine, but you obviously want them more than I do. Here." And I left him standing, mouth agape, in the kitchen surprised that someone had stood up to him.

I shut myself up in the guest bedroom until my DH came up to inquire what was wrong. I told him it felt like I was waiting on everybody. He then started to justify, saying that his mom is sick and she really appreciates the help and I'm the only functioning one here right now because he's getting sick too, and so on and so forth. I asked him why that makes it fair that I do all the work every time we come down there, to which he started to throw a tantrum and defend his mom, and I said, "OK, let Dad cook Christmas dinner then." - which stopped DH in his tracks.

I told DH that he needed to help me cook dinner. I then marched downstairs and told MIL that we would be having ham, potatos, peas, and crescent rolls. That's it. DH and I cooked dinner. Everyone said they loved it except FIL, who fed half of his to obese dog and grumbled about not having yams, then stood up, dropped his napkin on his dirty plate, and walked downstairs to the TV room. MIL got up and followed him. DH got up to do the same and I said, "Uh-uh. You and me have dish duty." He helped me clean without complaint. That evening, MIL asked FIL if he wanted pie. FIL responded by saying, "At this time of night?" MIL said, "Well, I was going to ask everyone else too, but I didn't want to leave you out." to which he responded, "What did I just say?" like he was warning a child. MIL had gone on to another part of the conversation with DH by now and COMPLETELY forgot about the stupid pie, but FIL wouldn't let it rest. He kept saying, "Bren. Bren. Bren. Bren." until she finally turned her attention to him and he repeated, "What did I just say?" I stood up and said, "We all got it, Dad." Than said I was going to get some pie and went upstairs. I was a writhing ball of tension by the time we finally left the next morning. I was furious at MIL for sitting around expecting me to do the work, furious at FIL for talking to everyone like he's some kind of freaking king, furious at DH for turning a blind eye, and furious at myself for allowing them to take advantage of me that way.

So you want to hear the icing on the cake?

We called mom next day to find out what her doctor said and, Christmas miracle, there's not a thing wrong with her dumb old kidneys.

Why do I keep doing this to myself? I think I have some kind of martyr syndrome.
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Re: Another fudged-up holiday (LONG VENT)
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2006, 03:58:24 PM »
Your story made me tense, like I was experiencing it for myself. It made me feel that "I'm so frustrated I could cry" feeling.

I am not going to "flame" you but you are waaaaaay overdue for a talk with your DH.  You are SO being taken advantage of and he is doing nothing. I did like, however, that when you do point something out to him he helps you. But you are past the point of saying "help me with the dishes".  Otherwise something small may happen to set you over the edge and you will blow up, which you don't want to do whether it is deserved or not.

You will never change your FIL. Your MIL has put up with him all these years and I say give up on that one. But his MIL sounds like a puzzle - you make her sound nice but her behaviour is so passive/aggressive... She was really sick once, saw that you'd do all the work and now suddenly she's sick every time...

I think you need to nicely, lovingly lay down the law with DH.
1) NO more laying around at his parents' house. You guys are a team and if you really do need to "help his poor mother" then HE will help too.
1a) If you cook he helps.  If you clean he helps.
1b) By some miracle if your MIL ever cooks again you BOTH help her cook/clean.

2) You do NOT want to cook holiday meals when there. If MIL is sick you adn DH will adjust the menu so as not to break your backs. If he wants breakfast, lunch, a snack or a drink he is to get it HIMSELF. He is also to wait on HIS father. You are not married to FIL but your DH is his son. Therefore he gets the problem child not you.
2a) If MIL is sick on a holiday you do NOT want to be there. It is not enjoyable. You have made every effort to find out ahead of time. Therefore, if you arrive there and find her to be sick EITHER:
2a1) You will BOTH turn around and go home and celebrate the holiday another time
2b1) You will ORDER DINNER IN. Read and repeat: ORDER DINNER IN. You will no longer be cooking - if DH wants to then you will help.

3) Since you have been upset/stressed/unhappy the last couple of holidays at the ILs and your MIL has been "sick" perhaps you should "take the burden off of them" and have them come to YOU for a holiday. Yes,  you're stuck with them in your house, but you know what? You can plan the menu, prep ahead of time, assign DH specific tasks and at least you KNOW you're cooking - not pretending like you're not.

4)If this were my DH and his family I kid you not we'd be in counseling cause I'd have blown a gasket by now. Counseling is not a bad thing. Helps you reevaluate your responses, keep your cool and if you can get DH to go maybe he'd see how YOU are being affected by all this.

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Re: Another fudged-up holiday (LONG VENT)
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2006, 04:12:31 PM »
Oh, wow, that doesn't sound like much of a holiday.  I think it sounds like your DH is a (slightly more tolerable) version of his father.  It's good that you are putting your foot down with him now.  You are not there to wait on him and his family, nor is your MIL. 

If he wants to go to help his mom, then he should do just that.  If he's not feeling well either, you should both stay home or he should scale back the plans to something more reasonable. 

I think you should re-write your post into a letter to your husband letting him know how you really feel.  He needs a wake up call!

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Re: Another fudged-up holiday (LONG VENT)
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2006, 04:15:26 PM »
It sounds like your MIL has found a way to take a "vacation" from doing all the work at your expense.  However, if she is tired and wants a break, she should simply ask you if you would mind hosting the meals and she can bring a dish or arrange to eat out.  Under no circumstances should she invite you to her place promising you that she will cook the holiday dinners and then not be able to finish the meals if she is "sick."

I think that you should either host future holiday meals or bring frozen pizzas just in case. If you host the holiday meals, you will get to decide what to cook, if anything.  You could also order pre-made meals to cut down on the work.  Your husband can help you do the necessary cleaning and can help you prepare the meals.


If it looks like you are going to be returning to their home for any holiday, make it clear to your husband that you will not be cooking dinner under any circumstances.   You can stop at the grocery store on the way to the in-laws house and buy enough frozen pizzas for two days. If poor MIL becomes "too sick"  to finish Christmas Eve Dinner, pop in a frozen pizza.  If she is still sick on Christmas Day, pop in another pizza.
 

 

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Re: Another fudged-up holiday (LONG VENT)
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2006, 04:40:31 PM »
I agree with everything Sweedetobee said.

At my parents and in-laws, everyone is in the kitchen pitching in.  Even if it's just mixing drinks or slicing bread, everyone pitches in.  Ordering in is probably the best option.  Also taking over the holiday so it's on your 'turf' and you can have advanced preparations (ie paper plates on hand, pizza delivery numbers, etc.)

You are obviously a very good person who wants to serve a beautiful meal, but that can only happen with help, prior planning and the support of your DH.
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Re: Another fudged-up holiday (LONG VENT)
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2006, 04:57:31 PM »
Thanks, everyone. Yes, I have had MUCH more success when we invite them out to our house. When they show up, FIL usually starts asking immediately when they are going to leave, which means MIL usually gives up as soon as we finish and they are out the door. Funny, though. She never shows up "sick" when they come to our house.

My DH usually likes to make the argument that they are older and can't take care of themselves very well, so they need our help. I feel rotten arguing against the "poor feeble old people" stance, but I keep telling him that they don't want our help. They want us to pick up after them. I point out that he has said to my MIL over and over again that she needs to eat better and not jump up the moment she doesn't feel rotten and rush around trying to help out everyone else (volunteer work, bowling, etc. which I honestly think she does so she can get away from my FIL for awhile). They refuse to listen to anything he says and I gently reminded him of that on the way home from this holiday. They want to continue eating nothing but chocolate and candy and junk food and laying around the house instead of cleaning up after themselves - honestly, there wasn't a single scrubby sponge anywhere in the house for us to use when we went to wash the dishes and no antibacterial cleanser of any kind; not even any hand soap - and then she cries and moans when she has to go in for yet ANOTHER ear surgery because her infection from two years ago still hasn't cleared up. Every time, DH tells her she has to recover and start eating right and every time, she ignores him and does what she wants to do. And yes, she is EXTREMELY passive-aggressive after living with my FIL for 40-some-odd years.

So I think DH is finally starting to come around and see that we cannot take responsibility for caring for them when they are both perfectly capable of caring for themselves. We have enough on our plates to think about without being at MIL's beck and call whenever she needs a little extra drama in her life.
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Re: Another fudged-up holiday (LONG VENT)
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2006, 05:24:05 PM »
(((YOU)))

I think I'd have blown up! Good for you for standing up to them all and keeping your cool.

My mom *tried* to blow my Christmas eve. Unfortunately for her, I was determined to let it roll off my back. She claimed they'd be eating with us, so we cooked a darn huge meal. 15 lb ham on the grill, fresh butterbeans and peas, homemade mashed potatoes (a whole 3 lb bag of them), homemade mac & cheese, slow cooked carrots, two gallons of tea and yeast rolls. Not to mention the gingerbread, cinnamon strusel muffins, and pumpkin cheesecake I made beforehand, and the dips I handmixed for a veggie tray. All set for five o'clock.

Then she calls me at 3 and tells me they're going to be late because she's still cooking. WHY IS SHE COOKING???? She wanted to do something with my brother (he and I don't socialize) and they were late. I was mad, but I said ok. We sat down to eat at five anyway. Guess who knocked on the door at 5 after 5?

I let them in and sat back down to finish dinner. She didn't have a word to say.

So, all that was to say I understand your frustration. You just have to build up that mental wall that refuses to let them make you feel guilty for not allowing them to ruin YOUR holiday. It's easier said than done, but it can be done.

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Re: Another fudged-up holiday (LONG VENT)
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2006, 05:49:07 PM »
Not so much your MIL, but your FIL and DH remind me quite a bit of my own.  I've already had the talk with DH where I've told him "Your mother puts up with a lot more from your dad than I will put up with from you.  If you ever pull the kind of crap your dad just did, you're not getting help from me."  (FIL is a complete workaholic, and expects everyone else to be the same.  He comes home, plops down in his chair, and demands that MIL bring him his dinner, desert, another glass of milk, book, etc.  He also expects MIL to do errands and other tasks for him.  I try to tell her he can get his own darn glass of milk, but she say she works so HARD, he's so BUSY, it's the LEAST she can do, yadda yadda.)

Of course, I'm still pulling my hair out with my DH - the house could be a complete mess, and I come home after a long day at work to see nothing done because *he didn't notice it*.   (DH is currently unemployed, after his company didn't get their contract renewed this past summer - he's "looking" only in the vaguest sense, but his unemployment check is larger than my 40-hour-a-week paycheck.  Cue some bitterness here.)  Seriously, DH will "notice" when he is absolutely out of laundry or when the dog needs to be fed, but that's about it - he just doesn't see when the trash cans need to be emptied, or the floor needs to be vacuumed, or the bathroom needs to be cleaned, or the kitchen needs to be mopped, or the bills need to be paid, or when there's clutter all over the house.  We've settled into a routine where I ask him to do 4-5 small things each morning before I leave for work, and I come home to see one or two done halfway, and he promises to do another by bedtime (which he very rarely does).  And this is an improvement over when we were first married, when he did nothing at all even when I asked him to.

My DH realizes his "intentions" rarely materialize into completed chores, and he says he's really trying to work on that.  And I'm getting less hesitant to give him a "honey do" list.  But if there's anything that can't be explained in discrete tasks - "tidy up the living room" or "clear some space in the closet" - I still have to do it :-(

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Re: Another fudged-up holiday (LONG VENT)
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2006, 05:56:21 PM »
 
:-X You are to be commended for not smacking FIL and shaking MIL until her teeth rattled.  :-X

These people need to be retrained. An hour's drive is not that far away. Next time they pull this stunt, tell them how sorry you are MIL is not feeling well, pack up your car and go home. If DH feels duty-bound to stay, you can come back and pick him up in a couple of days.

Another option might be to tell MIL that you will not be coming on the holidays any more since the burden of preparing for them always seems to make her ill - you'll get together at your home during a less stressful time.

And I second, third, fourth, and fifth through tenth the idea of some counseling for you and DH. You were not put on this earth to be taken advantage of, and hubby needs an objective, professional opinion on his parent's behavior.

Good luck and Happy New Year!
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Re: Another fudged-up holiday (LONG VENT)
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2006, 06:07:18 PM »
{{Redleo12}}

Good for you for realizing you need to stop this now before it gets any further out of hand.  Keep on top of DH, before he turns into the infant his father seems to have become.  Schedule time away the next holiday - you've earned some peace and quiet and someone else doing all the work!

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Re: Another fudged-up holiday (LONG VENT)
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2006, 06:10:41 PM »
Slartibartfast -

I have been through that myself. DH was actually unemployed for 2 years, although he did look very hard every day for a new job. It's so depressing to be in that situation for both members of the marriage. It got to the point where I would look for extra work to do so I could stay late at the office and delay going home. He was always in a foul mood and did not pick up after himself at all. Now he has a fabulous job, but he travels all the time and gets waited on hand and foot when he's out of town. It's not that he expects to be waited on when he's home, he just doesn't think of doing his own dishes and picking up his clothes because he's used to eating out and having maid service at the hotel. He is getting better at it now - I have asked him how best to approach him about the subject and he gave the response that it's absolutely fair for me to ask him to pick up after himself, he just asks that I do it politely. It's working out pretty well. Nine times out of ten, we don't have these kinds of problems. It only seems to spring up when we're around his parents.

I want to commend you for standing by your man. I KNOW from personal experience how hard that is to do in a situation like that.
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Re: Another fudged-up holiday (LONG VENT)
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2006, 06:24:13 PM »
Anyone remember National Lampoon's Vacation when Beverly D'Angelo's character shakes her fist at Aunt Edna and says, "Move outta that seat and I'll split your lip!"

I SO wanted to do that. I was raised better, though. I was never predisposed to threats, bullying, or anything along those lines. I feel helpless and angry at the same time when someone does it to me.

To add insult to injury, I called my own mom to wish her a Merry Christmas and all she did was complain that my brother and his wife didn't get them anything. I'm beginning to understand why some people say they hate Christmas.
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Re: Another fudged-up holiday (LONG VENT)
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2006, 07:42:59 PM »

{{{{{hugs}}}} redleo, that sounds awful.

 You know, you sound kind of like my mom when we kids were little, and how she was around her parents. The good news is No one but No one would walk on mom like that now - and her mom is the same sort of martyr that your dh's mom sounds like ... i don't know what it was my mom did, but she got it out of herself & i am betting you will, too.

 In the mean time, be good to yourself, have a nice soothing bath & let the tension of it ease off for a bit bfore you figure out how you are going to prevent it from happening again.

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Re: Another fudged-up holiday (LONG VENT)
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2006, 07:44:23 PM »
You showed way more restraint than I would have.   :o

I agree with the others, turn around and go home!

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Re: Another fudged-up holiday (LONG VENT)
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2006, 08:27:54 PM »
Wow. My head is going to explode.

Don't go back.

Or don't go back unless you've called 1-800-Honeybaked Hams and had an entire meal shipped over.

But, don't go back.

I really think you need to go somewhere else for Christmas.  A cruise is what I'm thinking.  Somewhere that even having a meal is a no-brainer.