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Shoo:

--- Quote from: araigne on March 20, 2011, 10:24:17 PM ---There are actually some great companies (like Mary Kay Cosmetics) that follow the basic pyramid structure, but their focus is on offering a quality product FIRST and foremost. If I were you I would defriend them, or at least block their posts and ignore their messages. For heaven's sake, don't engage them any further!  ;)

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I have to disagree with you.  MK is no different than any other MLM.  That company nearly cost someone I know her home and her marriage.  It certainly cost her all of her life savings.  That is how MK is.  And this person I know is not atypical.

www.pinktruth.com

Merry Mrs Martin:

--- Quote from: Shoo on May 01, 2011, 10:42:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: araigne on March 20, 2011, 10:24:17 PM ---There are actually some great companies (like Mary Kay Cosmetics) that follow the basic pyramid structure, but their focus is on offering a quality product FIRST and foremost. If I were you I would defriend them, or at least block their posts and ignore their messages. For heaven's sake, don't engage them any further!  ;)

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I have to disagree with you.  MK is no different than any other MLM.  That company nearly cost someone I know her home and her marriage.  It certainly cost her all of her life savings.  That is how MK is.  And this person I know is not atypical.

www.pinktruth.com

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   I Judge MLM two ways ....

Do they have a product that I(or at least someone) would normally buy at the price if offered from a stranger?

Do they(anyone up chain or their spouses/parents/siblings) make a profit from training? and/or do they make more money selling the starer kits then selling to customers?

While I recommend just saying "I'm not intersted" it gets people off your back faster.  It is perfectly potlie to ask to see the books of any person trying to sell you an opportunity/business .  You can ask a person offering a restaurant for sale " what was your gross and net profits? On what item do you make the most profit?" and  lot of other questions.  You can ask the exact same questions of a person offering a MLM..............how many people have you signed up? how many are still with you after a year? how much do you make from sales ? how much do you make when a person attends a seminar? how much profit is in a sample kit, for you ? how many cold contact emails/phone calls do you make before you make a sale?how much time did that take?  how much do you spend on gas getting to display parties, how much is spent on refreshments? exactly what was your profit last year and exactly how much time did you and/or your spouse/child invest?"   These are rude questions to ask a FRIEND these are perfectly appropriate questions to ask someone SELLING you a business. I ran a business I could answer any of these or 100 other questions in 2 minutes.

 I do actually ask these questions when someone tries to involve me in a MLM I almost never get answers. I also never get asked twice. What I get is " there is unlimited potential".  The worst of these MLM exists in part because people are too "polite" to question their presenters , how much do you make?  is a legitmate question to anyone selling you a business and it should be answered with I make X  not Bob the founder makes Y or Mary whose 10 levels up makes Z 

norrina:

--- Quote from: Merry Mrs Martin on April 27, 2011, 07:40:32 PM ---<snip> OP I didn't read the entire first post , because as a salesperson I didn't need to.  Objects are things to be overcome....... can't afford it , well product X will save you twice it's price in only 36 months.  </snip>

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EvilNorrina wants to respond, "oh, well, in that case, go ahead and give me product X now and I'll pay you for it in 18 months!"

Raintree:
I've actually been to sales seminars where they tell you to always have an answer for "objections."

As in,

"Thanks, but I'm not interested because of X."
"Oh, but if you look at X this way, it's really a positive thing, because in comparison with Y, blah blah blah..."

Giving reasons just gives them more fodder to argue about it.

"No thank you" is enough.

For the record, I never adopted the corny, pushy sales tactics recommended in the seminar. It would irritate me to have them used on me so I wouldn't use them on someone else.

kareng57:

--- Quote from: Raintree on May 05, 2011, 11:48:23 PM ---I've actually been to sales seminars where they tell you to always have an answer for "objections."

As in,

"Thanks, but I'm not interested because of X."
"Oh, but if you look at X this way, it's really a positive thing, because in comparison with Y, blah blah blah..."

Giving reasons just gives them more fodder to argue about it.

"No thank you" is enough.

For the record, I never adopted the corny, pushy sales tactics recommended in the seminar. It would irritate me to have them used on me so I wouldn't use them on someone else.

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Very true, but successful salespeople  would never get anywhere if they had no way of countering objections.

"That's too expensive" - they will tell you what you will actually save/gain profit in the long term.  "No one reads that publication" re media advertising - they will give you the figures as to how many people do in fact read it.

Of course, only a minority of people are cut out for heavy-duty sales.  But for those who are - they will generally not settle for a "sorry, not interested" the first time.  The second time - most polite salespeople will.

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