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No employee appreciation for you!
« on: December 06, 2006, 10:49:23 AM »
I work in a large company office, myself, co-workers, and another team are vendors, servicing this company's needs on an outsource basis. Yesterday the company had a big, catered appreciation lunch for a certain department that comprises about 90% of the company. Myself and the other vendors work within that department, too, right alongside them. We weren't invited to participate in the lunch, even though we've worked here for years and know everyone as well as the employees do. There is only about ten of us, so it wouldn't of been a big financial deal for them to include us. Not to mention it's just rude and hurtful to do that to someone when they work in basically the same department, the only difference is we're not technically 'Company A' employees. Myself and some co-workers were curious to see if our names even appeared on the invite list at all (we thought maybe they were and someone just forgot to invite us), so we went over to the lunch party room, where they were literally checking people at the door to make sure they were on the list. It was unclear if we actually were, but we were told that we could come back in an hour and partake in it since the room was too full at that point. So we did, got our food, got our 'employee appreciation' mugs. Three hours later, long after the party had ended, the admin. asst. for the company came up to me and explained that she'd have to take my mug away because I was never supposed to receive it in the first place since the lunch was only for this certain department. I explained to her that I worked in that department and had been for years. She said that didn't count because I wasn't a 'Company A' employee. I wasn't offended at all, I thought it was too funny that such a major deal would be made over one $2.00 mug. Too bad I hadn't used it yet, I wonder what she would of done then. In the past, I have done temp work, and even in a one-day temp assignment I would always be invited to partake if the company was having some kind of special lunch or whatever. 

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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2006, 10:54:13 AM »
Reminds me of the company I worked for, that told us we could come get our Christmas bonuses...and to bring $$ to reimburse them for the costs of the Christmas cards they were enclosed in.

No lie.

Some companies just don't get the 'we're doing this to improve morale' business. <G>

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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2006, 11:27:39 AM »
Reminds me of the company I worked for, that told us we could come get our Christmas bonuses...and to bring $$ to reimburse them for the costs of the Christmas cards they were enclosed in.

No lie.

Some companies just don't get the 'we're doing this to improve morale' business. <G>

Wow. How many employees told them to keep the card and just hand over the check?

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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2006, 11:35:17 AM »
 :-\  It may also have to do with the legal difference between employees and contractors, and companies have been taken to court over that kind of thing.  Some of them feel they must make the difference very obvious, and that there are blatant perks to being an employee that don't accrue to non-employees, because if the line is fuzzy, then denying the non-employees a real 'employee' job, with the benefits that go with that real employee job - gets them taken to court with big juicy settlements against them...

It's not nice, but I understand why they do it. 
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2006, 01:19:54 PM »
The joys of beauracracy just never end at all do they? That's ridiculous, how can you have employee appreciation for only one part of the company? Sounds like a morale killer to me.
I think the ten of you should have your own party and get mugs for yourselves....
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2006, 01:27:09 PM »
The joys of beauracracy just never end at all do they? That's ridiculous, how can you have employee appreciation for only one part of the company? Sounds like a morale killer to me.
I think the ten of you should have your own party and get mugs for yourselves....

I would love to do that, but I seem to be the only one who is hurt by this. The others just shrug it off with an "I don't care that much" attitude. Guess I'm just too sensitive for my own good. It's hard to watch all the other employees enjoying their stuff while we don't get it. I think this company is just thinking solely about numbers and that's why they exclude us and don't "get it" that we count, too.

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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2006, 01:53:56 PM »
Myself and some co-workers were curious to see if our names even appeared on the invite list at all (we thought maybe they were and someone just forgot to invite us), so we went over to the lunch party room, where they were literally checking people at the door to make sure they were on the list. It was unclear if we actually were, but we were told that we could come back in an hour and partake in it since the room was too full at that point. So we did, got our food, got our 'employee appreciation' mugs. Three hours later, long after the party had ended, the admin. asst. for the company came up to me and explained that she'd have to take my mug away because I was never supposed to receive it in the first place since the lunch was only for this certain department.

Once you checked the guest list and discovered it was 'unclear' if you were supposed to have been included (BTW, I liken this to calling an aquaintence who is throwing a party to make sure you can come since you were never invited...), I think it was presumptive of you to partake of the offerings.

It seems to me that whoever was at the doro did the best they could while trying not to hurt your feelings about not having been included. Essentially, you came across (whether this is actually what you were tyring to do or not) as fishing for an invite. So you were given a polite excuse and asked to come back later, essentially when the festivites were winding down, when it would not be so obvious that you were crashign the party.

This was a company organized EMPLOYEE party. Regardless how long you have worked with these people, you are not an employee and were rightfully excluded. But rather than accepting that graciously, you put someone on the spot, partook of food and trinkets not meant for you, and then you get upset and snarky when asked to return the trinkets.

Is it fair that you don't get to enjoy the festivities and appreciation with the people you have worked with for years? Probably not. And I am sure you absolutely deserve to be appreciated for your work. But the company that should be recognizing you is the one that actually empoys you. That's kind of the point of employee recognition.

I have done years of temp and contract work, so please don't think I don't know where you're coming from. It's no fun to feel left out or looked down on b/c you're not an employee. But seriously... if they valued you that much, they would hire you and make you an employee. So when you feel undervalued, maybe you are. Might be time to seek a position that doesn't leave you feeling like that.

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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2006, 02:00:15 PM »
Where I work, the managers LOOOOVE to call all-hands meetings and get us all excited about all of the great opportunities and performance incentives that are available to the employees - and then when any of the administrative team try to take advantage of them, our supervisors say, "Oooo. Sorry. We meant the technical teams." Now why would they make the meetings mandatory for us if the benefits they are discussing don't apply to us? That's just cruel!
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2006, 02:21:04 PM »
Kingsrings:

I totally feel for you. A few years ago my boyfriend went thru a similar situation at the place he was "temping" ( I use quotes b/c he had been there for some time). IMHO I think it totally goes against the spirit of the season for a company to be so inclusive. Not to mention it does nothing for morale to be pretty much told that you're not worth some crappy food and even crappier gifts (if you can a mug w/ the company logo a gift). Personally if I were in that situation with a company I would take that as my cue to find a new job.

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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2006, 02:26:40 PM »
Myself and some co-workers were curious to see if our names even appeared on the invite list at all (we thought maybe they were and someone just forgot to invite us), so we went over to the lunch party room, where they were literally checking people at the door to make sure they were on the list. It was unclear if we actually were, but we were told that we could come back in an hour and partake in it since the room was too full at that point. So we did, got our food, got our 'employee appreciation' mugs. Three hours later, long after the party had ended, the admin. asst. for the company came up to me and explained that she'd have to take my mug away because I was never supposed to receive it in the first place since the lunch was only for this certain department.

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Once you checked the guest list and discovered it was 'unclear' if you were supposed to have been included (BTW, I liken this to calling an aquaintence who is throwing a party to make sure you can come since you were never invited...), I think it was presumptive of you to partake of the offerings.

It seems to me that whoever was at the doro did the best they could while trying not to hurt your feelings about not having been included. Essentially, you came across (whether this is actually what you were tyring to do or not) as fishing for an invite. So you were given a polite excuse and asked to come back later, essentially when the festivites were winding down, when it would not be so obvious that you were crashign the party.
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She checked one list and our names were not on there, then checked another list where it appeared that our names were on there, but I can't be certain because of the noise around me. When we came back an hour later, there was a whole group of new people just being let in, and there was still plenty of food being served, so it's not like we were told to come back for the leftovers. We weren't fishing for an invite, we were trying to see if our names were on there since people from other departments not related to the one the party was being held for were going to the party -The security guards and cleaning staff attended.

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This was a company organized EMPLOYEE party. Regardless how long you have worked with these people, you are not an employee and were rightfully excluded. But rather than accepting that graciously, you put someone on the spot, partook of food and trinkets not meant for you, and then you get upset and snarky when asked to return the trinkets.
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She gave me the mug. I never asked for it and didn't even know mugs were being given out until she gave it to me. And regardless, it was very rude of her to take it away from me after the fact, especially since it was some inexpensive crap mug. Talk about petty.

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I have done years of temp and contract work, so please don't think I don't know where you're coming from. It's no fun to feel left out or looked down on b/c you're not an employee. But seriously... if they valued you that much, they would hire you and make you an employee. So when you feel undervalued, maybe you are. Might be time to seek a position that doesn't leave you feeling like that.
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I am trying to because of those reasons amongst them. And if I'm listed on their company directory along with everyone else as an employee even though technically I'm not, then I and my cohorts should be included in the festivities with the exception of the giving out holiday bonuses thing. It is extremely rude and hurtful to have a shindig and exclude people because of some silly technicality, when we've all been working in this office for the past five or more years.


« Last Edit: December 06, 2006, 02:31:35 PM by kingsrings »

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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2006, 03:47:06 PM »
I'm going to agree with you on this, Kings.  What was done was rude and totally unnecessary.

There's no reason why a certain segment of an organization should be excluded from a lunch when they absolutely DO work for the company.  Perhaps as a temp.  Perhaps as a contractor.  But, do you actually do something to help make the organization run more smoothly?  Yes.  And, this was a lunch that could have shown appreciation for that hard work.  And built morale amongst you.

I don't blame you for being upset one bit.


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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2006, 07:08:59 PM »
:-\  It may also have to do with the legal difference between employees and contractors, and companies have been taken to court over that kind of thing.  Some of them feel they must make the difference very obvious, and that there are blatant perks to being an employee that don't accrue to non-employees, because if the line is fuzzy, then denying the non-employees a real 'employee' job, with the benefits that go with that real employee job - gets them taken to court with big juicy settlements against them...

It's not nice, but I understand why they do it. 

Wow, I never thought of it that way. If that was the reason, then how sad that it has gotten to the point where that has to happen nowadays. But in our case, we have been privy to other little appreciation things that have gone on in the past with this company, so I don't know if that was the reason this time around. For instance, when treats or little gadgets have been handed out to employees cubicle to cubicle, we have always been included on that. Now in that instance they have no way of knowing if we're vendors or not because our area looks the same as anyone else's, but if there was a legal reason as you said, the counsel would definitely make sure that they never came within ten feet of our cubicles to pass out the goodies.

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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2006, 07:29:05 PM »
Everytime my company passes out mugs, keyrings, magnets, or the like (or sends some glossy brochure to my home), my first thought is: That could have gone into my bonus. :-\

IMHO, most of that "morale building/employee appreciation" stuff is a load of crap - it sounds good at the board of directors meeting and looks good on the recruiting materials. If you want to let me know what a good job I'm doing, write me a 4 star eval and raise my pay.

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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2006, 08:12:28 PM »
Everytime my company passes out mugs, keyrings, magnets, or the like (or sends some glossy brochure to my home), my first thought is: That could have gone into my bonus. :-\


I agree with you to a certain extent.  I'd like more money in the end.

However, I also do feel that a certain amount of "morale building" is crucial.  This is coming from someone who never got any of that in her last job.  I never felt that anyone appreciated anything that I did.  And, consequently, it showed in my morale.  I just ended up not really caring anymore.

One of the things I said when I got the job I have now (to myself - not to the people paying me! :D ) was that I was actually willing to give up a little bit of pay to feel like someone cared that I was there and was working really hard.  Sometimes, morale can actually be worth money to people.  And, in my case, it was.

Yesterday, my office had a Holiday Tea.  And, it was wonderful!  It was comprised of everyone - from the managers to the support services to the data management.....  We all had an hour where we got together, took a break from work, and said, "You know what?  We're pretty terrific!"  Hardly cost the company a thing.  And, a lot of people brought food from home to share - a bit of a potluck, but not required.  We had tons of food and lots of fun.  We did an activity together.  And, it was one of the best "team building" events we could have.

I think that there are times when it is helpful to know that you're not just an employee number.  You can be appreciated in some small way.  The company doesn't have to spend lots of money doing this, either.  It can be as simple as just getting everyone together and having a fun time without work for an hour or two.


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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2006, 10:48:27 AM »
Everytime my company passes out mugs, keyrings, magnets, or the like (or sends some glossy brochure to my home), my first thought is: That could have gone into my bonus. :-\


I agree with you to a certain extent.  I'd like more money in the end.

However, I also do feel that a certain amount of "morale building" is crucial.  This is coming from someone who never got any of that in her last job.  I never felt that anyone appreciated anything that I did.  And, consequently, it showed in my morale.  I just ended up not really caring anymore.

One of the things I said when I got the job I have now (to myself - not to the people paying me! :D ) was that I was actually willing to give up a little bit of pay to feel like someone cared that I was there and was working really hard.  Sometimes, morale can actually be worth money to people.  And, in my case, it was.

Yesterday, my office had a Holiday Tea.  And, it was wonderful!  It was comprised of everyone - from the managers to the support services to the data management.....  We all had an hour where we got together, took a break from work, and said, "You know what?  We're pretty terrific!"  Hardly cost the company a thing.  And, a lot of people brought food from home to share - a bit of a potluck, but not required.  We had tons of food and lots of fun.  We did an activity together.  And, it was one of the best "team building" events we could have.

I think that there are times when it is helpful to know that you're not just an employee number.  You can be appreciated in some small way.  The company doesn't have to spend lots of money doing this, either.  It can be as simple as just getting everyone together and having a fun time without work for an hour or two.




POD. I do like that as well. Bonuses are nice too, but I feel that employees have to see and hear the employee appreciation as well through acts like this. People need to gather together to fellowship and break bread, so to speak. That is why I love employee potlucks, although they rarely happen around here unfortunately.