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This is my submission to the etiquette faux pas hall of
fame. This is a real email trail between the groom, my husband and me.
GROOM: Wassa happenin dude? Thanks for your attendance along
with your wife, it was greatly appreciated. Is everything okay up there
financially for you and the family? I do not want to be rude but I did not
want anyone to feel obligated to come with dough if they did not have it.
What happened dude, did your wife get upset at your spending
at the Bachelor party? Did she get upset and say that my gift was you and
your spending at the Bachelor party? Was there any problems with your
spending spree when you came down? Let a head know what is going on.
HUSBAND/WEDDING GUEST: Bro,
All's well. Bachelor party spending was no trouble. We gave a $50
check at the wedding. -You didn't get it? -was it not enough?
THE GIFT POLICE!
Come on now!
GROOM: Dude not the gift police. We did get the check
and I thought by the gift that you may have gotten into trouble for your
spending at Bachelor party. I know you spent some dough, how much not sure
but I did not know if it was too much. Some people spent more than they
thought when they awoke the next day and counted what was not there. I am
not trying to be a jerk, u know I can do this naturally, LOL. I was just
seeing if all was okay as per gift. That check did not even cover 1 plate
at our wedding let alone 2 bro. If money is tight bro I certainly
understand and that is why I said I did not want anyone to feel obligated to
give dough if they did not have it available.
WIFE OF HUSBAND/WEDDING GUEST: I
am writing this on my own. You can take this up with Husband/Wedding Guest
later, but I am done. So, here is the story.
Yes it is true. In January, Husband/Wedding Guest
traveled to your Bachelor Party and spent a lot of money on buses, dinner and
women. However, the biggest reason he came to the party was to support
you. It was a long trip, a good deal of effort, but he did it for you.
In February, your wedding was scheduled on the same weekend our son's birthday
and the beginning our vacation to Steamboat. It would have been much
easier for us to not come. BUT, we raced to NYC on a Friday night to
attend your wedding, then back Saturday night to be back for Son of Guests's
birthday party. On Son of Guests's birthday, we spent a good deal of money
on a party for him, hosting 30 people. At that party, Son of Guests
received $140 in checks, comprised largely of $100 from my mother.
Needless to say, I did not then start invoicing my friends and family for the
difference. It was a party and we were celebrating, not fundraising.
On Monday morning, we left for a week in Steamboat where we threw down $400 on
plane tickets, $200 on food, $250 on a car rental and $60 on t-shirts, and we
got off this easy because our skis, lift tickets and lodging were compensated.
We live in NH and make a 6-figure income. But, know this. We have
two car payments, $40K in student loans and we own a house in New England, have
a large mortgage and over $6k in property taxes annually. We have to spend
close to $6k a month just to cover our expenses. Truth of the matter is
that you caught me a bad time in terms of "free" cash, given your
wedding so closely coincided with our son's party and our vacation expenses.
Sure, we make money, but the extra last month was spoken for. Now, I feel
humiliated for choosing to give $50, because YOU chose to make me feel that way.
But at the time, I felt that sum was okay, given Husband/Wedding Guest previous
investment in attending your bachelor party. Sure, I guess I could have
swung $100, maybe $200, hell, maybe $1000 if I pulled it from our other cash
accounts. But, frankly, I felt we exhausted enough money at your bachelor
party and effort (2 lightening fast trips to NYC) to not make giving more money
worth it to me. I manage the money in our house and this was my choice.
I am not sure what you gave our wedding. I will look back at my records
and check and I do apologize if the sums were not in parity. At our
wedding, we got $4k in gifts, comprised largely of $2k from my mother and my
grandmother. These are the types of checks you get from your family.
We are not your family. We are marginal friends at best. I am sure
your wedding cost a fortune, but again, that circumstance was one of your
choices. You certainly could have hosted a much more modest affair.
But, keep in mind; a wedding is a celebration and an event to be enjoyed by
family and friends. Your guised email dressed up as concern for you poor
and improvised friend does not fool me. The truth is that you are pissed
off and feel you were shorted some money, so you are trying to get your point
across without being called on your real intention. Well, I am calling you
on it. So, when did you write this email, after the emails you
sent to people who RSVP'ed and then did not show up? I bet they cost you
more money than we did. Were you pissed off that they did not send you a
super duper blender, mixer, French fry maker? Wedding etiquette says you
have a year from the date of the marriage to give a gift. I will be sure
to direct our tax return to your address. Wedding etiquette probably also
says not to look the gift horse in the mouth, you miserable ungrateful bastardo.
You are rude and uncouth and the result of your actions has left you with $50 in
hand and a lost friend in the bush. Good luck with the rest of your life.
Don't write me back. You can take this up with my husband.
GROOM: I have now took the time to read the complete e-mail
from Wife of Husband/Wedding Guest and certainly have not ever said nor thought
that you guys were poor. I know what it is to have bills pile up and to make
choices on how to spend money. You really do not need to preach to me about it.
I am sure if I shared with you our living expenses it may even surprise you, so
do not hint you are special for living in NE and paying what you pay up there as
that is your choice to live there as it was our choice to have our affair set up
the way it was. In regard to the thought that you had that we e-mailed or called
people who RSVP'd to try and get gifts or money, we did not do that at all!!!
Truth of the matter is that only a couple who would have been coming up from
Atlanta did not show but they called and advised they would not make it, so all
in all everyone who rsvp'd showed up, lucky us I suppose. You want to make this
out to be a tit for tat thing, it can be done but I would tend to think that
would be foolish let alone childish. You made the trek down as a couple of
Husband/Wedding Guest came down solo a few weeks earlier, both trips were
certainly appreciated as you can tell by the amount of times it has been said
and the reaction you guys always receive when you are seen down here. Call the
friendship "MARGINAL at best, Wife of Husband/Wedding Guest, no sweat of my
back if that is how it is thought of. Just remember I made sacrifices with my
wife, then girlfriend, to attend your beautiful affair as you made sacrifices to
come down to NYC if you would like to go tit for tat. I will choose to end this
e-mail here and pls try to take a step back and think for a minute and see what
is being typed to you and know that everything was appreciated and if u could
not swing a gift just say so with no explanation of house bills, college loans,
vacation expenses, car expenses etc. See we have a car note as well, we have 2
college loans to pay let along my wife’s Masters education, car insurance,
utilities, oh yeah out honeymoon which we left for the next morning. I can go on
with no problems, get the point that we all have the same bullshit to deal with
in life, expenses and bills we make for ourselves, they all have different
numbers but the same issue, have to be paid on time!!!
WIFE OF HUSBAND/WEDDING GUEST: We
are having this conversation because you were very very very rude to even
question the amount of our gift to you, regardless of the reason. It is simply
rude. It is rude beyond reason. I don't think I have ever encountered a more
rude action in my life on this planet. You should have simply taken our check,
cashed it and sent a thank you note. If you did, I am sure a lot less hurt
feelings would have ensued. These are not the words of a friend, or a gentleman.
By you words, it seems like you would have rather we gave no gift at all then
insult you with our little little check. I quote: "Is everything okay up
there financially for you and the family?" "Did she get upset and say
that my gift was you and your spending at the Bachelor party? " "We
did get the check and I thought by the gift that you may have gotten into
trouble for your spending at Bachelor party." "That check did not even
cover 1 plate at our wedding let alone 2 bro." "If money is tight bro
I certainly understand and that is why I said I did not want anyone to feel
obligated to give dough if they did not have it available." Advice from
Knot.com Be sure to accept and acknowledge every gift gracefully. We are paying
for most of our wedding, which is quite lavish, and so far most of our guests
have given gifts costing around $40 per couple. My sister's husband's parents
gave us a $16 gift from our registry. Is this an acceptable gift? What is the
etiquette for biting our tongues? A. Bite hard. Although people generally
do give them, wedding gifts are not mandatory. Their gift isn't necessarily of
normal wedding-gift caliber but calling attention to that fact would be
extremely rude. You don't necessarily know what their circumstances are; maybe
they simply couldn't afford something more expensive. But even if they could,
just let it go and send a gracious thank-you note. And remember that the amount
of money you spend on your wedding -- and the amount the majority of your guests
choose to spend on gifts -- has absolutely no bearing on what kinds of gifts you
are "supposed" to get.
GROOM: Who in the hell makes theknot.com the leading authority
in life in relation to events and weddings? I am sorry to see that you live your
life or use different websites as tools for etiquette or party planning. I
certainly do not pay attention to these sites nor does Cara when it comes to
planning. If I would have used a website when it came to your wedding your gift
would have been less but it was not at all. To me personally it was money well
deserved for a friend of mine whom I went to college with for 4 years starting
his new life with his wife and a new beginning. I certainly do not regret giving
what I gave to you back in 2000, not at all. I actually wish we could have given
more, but all was given that we could, $300. (THEY ACTUALLY GAVE $200.
I CHECKED THE FILES.) Maybe I have been too nice about this as you have been
incredibly rude to myself as well. Husband/Wedding Guest has ran behind your
skirt instead of having this conversation with me. Something that I thought
would never ever happen. I thought Husband/Wedding Guest would be able to say
something and not have a spokeswoman for him. This whole debate will end now and
I am sorry it ends this way. I am sure you feel differently about this. But when
people start using websites as leading authorities I have to start questioning
their decision making skills. It is funny how someone like myself can be genuine
and ask if everything is okay and if nothing could be afforded b/c of everything
going on. All that had to be done was make a phone call and say listen bro I do
not have funds available as their is a lot going on. I would have said just come
down if u can still and that would be fine. In the world of money we all spend
it, some better than others.
By the way when I add up my expenses like you have done it
comes out to over 6k as well, I am sure no one feels bad for us, do you?
Definitely not!!!
WIFE OF HUSBAND/WEDDING GUEST to HUSBAND: Oh,
my God. I can't tell you how much this has distressed and distracted me today.
Unbelievable. You know, the thought never crossed my mind that our gift would
cause this much trouble. It was not that we did not have funds available, its
that I did not feel like spending any more money on THAT WEDDING, period. I felt
we had spent enough in support of his wedding events already, i.e. expensive
bachelor party. What gives? Are gone the days when you can give a gift and get
thanked? And truly, GROOM is not that close of a friend to me, and as far as I
can see, YOU now either. I have always found GROOM to be foul-mouthed and rude.
Every time we speak to him, he breaks our backs about something. It never
changes. He is a fool. And look at this....crazy! Maybe I have been too nice
about this as you have been incredibly rude to myself as well. (Who is he
kidding? His line of questions are as rude as they come!) But when people start
using websites as leading authorities I have to start questioning their decision
making skills. (Now, he is insulting me since I was clever enough to find a
leading Internet source to tell him to stand down and notice that he is being
rude?) Husband/Wedding Guest has ran behind your skirt instead of having this
conversation with me. Something that I thought would never ever happen. I
thought Husband/Wedding Guest would be able to say something and not have a
spokeswoman for him. (Now, he is insulting YOU, calling you nothing short of
p-whipped? My God! The only reason I am writing to him is that I wrote the check
and decided what to give. Plus, I have a way with words and can get my point
across very clearly. However, my decision making skills have already been called
into questions...see above.) It is funny how someone like myself can be genuine
and ask if everything is okay and if nothing could be afforded b/c of everything
going on. All that had to be done was make a phone call and say listen bro I do
not have funds available as their is a lot going on. I would have said just come
down if u can still and that would be fine. In the world of money we all spend
it, some better than others. (Again, who is he kidding? Who else do you know on
the planet that would send a friend an email to question his money gift and
assume that the friend must be having money trouble or issues with his wife
being mad? I am curious to think what he thought may have been an appropriate
gift, given the money you already spent on his bachelor party. Why not just cash
our check and send a thank you note like a normal person? Maybe, the wedding
should have required the purchase of a ticket, like the prom, to ensure all
expenses for guests where covered. Or, we could have gotten our hands stamped at
the door and been given drink tickets?) Truth is, I had planned to write a check
for $100-$150, but while in the ladies room writing my check, I decided on $50,
given that we had already spent quite a bit in support of the bachelor and
travel. Plus, given our relationship in my opinion is less than "best of
friends", I thought $50 would be fine from friends like us that he had not
laid eyes on in 4 years. I guess I goofed. Maybe I should have consulted a web
site to check before I signed the dotted line. Oh well!
FauxPasoftheYear0303-05
It's hard to keep track of the communication
going on in these emails but the groom's presumption that he is owed enough of a
gift to cover the cost of two dinners is positively breathtaking! And he
even blankets it in some mock concern for the well-being of his giftbearing
guests! If someone were in desperate financial straits, it doesn't
help to burden them with guilt manipulations about their insufficient gift
amount.
On the other hand, replying to the Beast was
probably not a wise use of time. Greedy cretons aren't motivated by
logical arguments to change and it becomes a waste of time to even try.
Retain some dignity and merely let go of the lines to that sinking ship without
another word. It's genuinely fun to let some people stew in baffled
isolation as they try to figure out why you never return their emails or phone
calls.
Dear Jeanne,
A good friend of mine was married recently, and I was one of
five bridesmaids. Before she left for her honeymoon, the bride told us that she
would like to take us all out for dinner to thank us for our support and
friendship over the years.
She had booked a private room at a nice restaurant. When we
sat down, the bride passed each of us a box. Each contained a fountain pen, a
stack of blank cards, and a list of 70 guests, their addresses, and the gifts
they had given the bride. Before we could eat, she wanted us to write her
thank-you notes for her.
I thought for a moment, then said that perhaps the guests
would be happier with a simple personal message from her, even if it were just
something along the lines of, "Dear ___, Thank you so much for the ____. It
means a lot to us that you thought of us. Love, Bride and Groom." She
reassured us that she was personally writing the notes for those guests who
would recognize her handwriting!
I think that all the bridesmaids were stunned, but nobody
wanted to make a scene. We wrote, addressed, stamped, and sealed in grim silence
for almost two hours before we could order dinner. As far as I know, none of us
has spent much time with her since then.
FauxPasoftheYear0426-05
One thing that has begun to annoy
readers of this web site is how frequently people display their complete lack of
a backbone which results in them being used abominably by the ever increasingly
dark side of manners. Let's get one thing straight - the "scene"
was already created/made by the bride and a reaction to her outrageous
presumption would not be "making a scene" unless you flung the
fountain pen across the room to embed it into a painting of the Marquis De Sade
or flipped the box of notes in the air creating a stationery
snowfall.
No, it is quite possible to decline this
lovely honor without making an idiot of yourself. Here is one scenario of
how it could be done:
Bridesmaid: sits blinking at the
contents of the box then gently pushes it away from her place setting saying
with a sweet smile, "Thank you but I think I will decline the honor of
writing these."
Bride: "Why not? Aren't you
going to help me?"
Bridemaid: "It is neither my duty
nor obligation to express your personal thoughts of gratitude for the gifts your
guests gave you." Still smiling sweetly....
Bride: "But there are so many! How
am I supposed to do all these myself?"
Bridesmaid: "One at a time is the
usual method." Bridesmaid then makes a mental note in her
head to never host any type of shower for this person again and seriously
considers never buying her a gift again. After all, it would be very
unkind to burden the bride with such an onerous duty to write her thank you
notes.
My mother-in-law and I get along great. We broke the
tension by playing harmless (yet sometimes expensive) pranks on each other.
The first thing she did to me, before marriage, was to borrow my most expensive
pair of stilettos heels and wear them at a family gathering (we both wear size 8
mediums). To my horror, she "accidentally" stepped onto a piece
of wood where epoxy had been mixed up earlier in the day. She stepped out
of my heels and ushered me into the kitchen. She never said a word to me.
By the time dinner was complete, the epoxy had set up fast. She then
presented me the stuck heels and said, "Since you're marrying my son, I
guess we're stuck together." I about died!!! She was trying to
be funny. Thus started the "shoe war". I then drilled
holes in the bottoms of her favorite pair of stilettos and
laughed when her feet were soaked in the rain. LOL. She laughed
also. We pranked each other's shoes so much that we ran out of pairs to
kill. So, she started putting itching powder in all of my clothes, and I
put bleach on all of her colors. She red-socked my whites. Etc.,
etc.
Finally, the wedding day had come. No pranks, except we both
ordered size 7 Narrows shoes for each other for the wedding.
Ouch!!!!!!!!!!! We went on our honeymoon, and I had a message from her at
the hotel. She said that she was glad that I'd been a good sport and all.
Then she stated that it's always been a tradition in her family to prank the
bride's car while she is on the honeymoon. She said that my car is safe
from being stolen, since it has four flat tires. She also asked
if the slashes on the sidewalls were repairable. My heart sank!!!
However, I guess that I deserved it since I egged her car at the bachelorette
party. True Story!!!
FauxPasoftheYear0619-05
If this is a true story then you and your MIL
are playing a game of escalating vandalism with each other's possessions.
Pranks are harmless jokes on the unsuspecting. Destroying property is a
passive-aggressive statement of mutual disrespect which cannot be vocalized or
overtly stated so it hides under the thin surface of being
"prankish".
How do you feel about this??? I have a cousin who lives
in MD and is getting married this summer. Yesterday, I received the
following, in the mail from her sister-in-law.
_________and _________are getting
married!
Since we know it's hard for you to attend
showers
Here's your chance: Send your love and good wishes
(and maybe some dishes)
To _______'s house
Where quiet as a mouse
She'll gather them up and shout
OH BOY! EVERYBODY wishes you joy!
It's a Mail Shower! If you would like
to participate please mail your gifts
by
June 20 to:
________ _________ 1010 Main St, Anytown, MD
_________ and _________ are registered at
Crate & Barrel and Macy's. Check their choices out online at Crate and
barrel.com or Macys.com, or use your own ideas. All good wishes will be
opened with ______ and _______ during a surprise party at the _______'s in
June.
I find this to be insulting, tacky, rude and
ignorant! I am relieved to find that my immediate family feels the same as
I do. I am trying to believe that neither my aunt or uncle have any
knowledge of this. I have always found them to have much more class than
this faux pas would portray. Maybe, I'm a little
"touchy", but I am hugely offended. I am beginning to wonder if
we will be invited to the wedding or merely asked to send a gift. Oh, and
by the way...I do not have a difficult time attending showers and I have NEVER
sent online flowers to any prospective bride or new mother, in lieu of a shower
gift. I can only hope that my cousin, aunt & uncle were not aware that
this was sent to out-of-state relatives (and who knows who else).
FauxPasoftheYear0524-05
Forget attending the shower. That's too
much work for the hostess to prepare her house and food for guests, it's just
too much for the guests to take time from their day to come and we all know the
bride would be greatly taxed to carry all that loot to her car and into the
apartment. Just send the gifts directly to her. Not.
One girl here couldn't understand why her bridesmaid had lied
to her about her bridesmaid's dress.
You were unkind and pretentious to demand that your bridesmaid
wore a dress that was obviously out of her price range. When she didn't turn up
to the fitting, you immediately thought it was because she couldn't afford it,
so you must have been aware of this situation, but instead of being mortified at
your own behavior, you seem to think she is behaving badly. The reason why she
later didn't make the alterations and lied to you about it seems obvious: She
couldn't afford it but was embarrassed to let you know, or kindly didn't want to
"guilt" you into paying for her.
What did it matter that the dress looked slightly strange on
your day? The guests to your wedding (and that is what your bridesmaid is) are
not there to look good on your photos, but as friends who should be made to feel
welcome. Anything else is a horrible breach of etiquette on YOUR part.
Your bridesmaid paid more than she could afford for a dress to
make you happy. She deserves your gratitude, not your scorn.
FauxPasoftheYear0322-05
Silly Story Contributor! Did you really
think I would condone lying and a passive-aggressive avoidance of a commitment
as a suitable way to handle the issue of a bridesmaid being unable to afford the
dress the bride picked out? Were you expecting the bride to somehow be
clairvoyant and supernaturally get your poverty vibes? Grow up and learn
to be behave like a well mannered adult who would know to speak to the bride
privately about her concern that she must bow out of the wedding because the
costs have become more than she can bear.
I am a professional automotive technician who was trying to
help a friend in need.
This friend of mine was someone I knew for about 15 years, and
when I say "I knew" it’s because our friendship is no longer because of this
story. Scott, “The Friend” had some major car problems and called upon me to
help him out. I spent two entire weekends repairing his Toyota truck getting it
running again. I replaced the clutch, head gasket, front brakes, and tons of
other things to get this truck back on the road. Scott was a painter and did not
have a lot of extra money to fix this truck so I did all the work for free as a
favor to a friend. I even went as far as paying for most of the parts out of my
own pocket.
After about 2 months after I had fixed
his truck Scott called me up and invited me to dinner as a form of payment for
all the work I had done on his truck, so I graciously accepted his offer to take
me to dinner. Scott showed up at my place dressed up in very nice cloths and
told me he was taking me to a very nice restaurant and that I should dress nice
for the dinner.
I made one fatal mistake by not bringing my credit cards or
any cash as I had understood he was buying dinner.
When we arrived at the restaurant I
noticed he was not lying it was a very nice and very expensive Italian
restaurant. Scott pulls up to the front door and insists on using the valet
parking. I thought this was a little overkill but he was flipping the bill so I
let it go. We sat down for dinner and Scott orders a round of Scotch for the
both of us as we looked over the menu.
He then tells me the sky is the limit and I should order
anything I want. Remember this was no cheap meal. After 3 rounds of Scotch and 2
glasses of beer with dinner I sat at the table very full and fairly buzzed from
the liquor. When the bill comes Scott tells me he would be right back and
leaves the table for about 15 minutes. I started to wonder if he had taken off
and left me with the bill so I started to get nervous because I did not bring
any money. But to my amazement Scott returned with what he called good news. He
had gone to the kitchen and had a nice little chat with the cook who was a
friend of his and made a deal with him. The deal was that Scott and myself were
to do dishes for the remainder of the night as payment for our dinner bill. I
told Scott there was no way I was going to do dishes for dinner and I was not
dressed up to get my cloths dirty paying for a dinner. I told Scott to just pay
for dinner and take me home. He looked at me and said he could not pay for
dinner and he didn’t even have money to pay the valet. I asked him to please
hand me his keys so I may go home to get my credit card and end this mess he had
got us into. He informs me that the cook was also the owner of the restaurant
and that he had made this deal with him a month ago and he couldn’t back out.
I ended up having to do dishes for 6 hours to pay for my meal. When I asked
Scott why he didn’t tell me the arrangement he had made ahead of time he just
laughed and said he didn’t think I would mind working for my dinner.
FauxPasoftheYear0302-05
If I had a little image of a rotisserie, we'd
put Scotty on it and let him slow roast his way out of Ehell. Pass the BBQ
sauce.
I recently ran into an old friend whom I hadn't seen in
months. We always exchanged Christmas cards, but that was about it.
We chatted for a few minutes, then she said she had to go, but we just HAD to
get together sometime. "Great idea!" I said, "how's next
Saturday?" Her face literally fell. "Um, next Saturday's no
good," she stammered. "How about the Saturday after that?"
"That's no good either. Look, I'll call you, and we'll set up a
date." I never did hear from her.
FauxPasoftheYear0316-05
I hate conversational gambits which people
don't mean and have no intention of following up on. Say what you mean and
mean what you say!
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