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I received a baby shower invitation from a friend a couple
months ago. This is what it said....
You are invited to BLANK'S baby shower on march 7th 2006 at 2pm to
help us celebrate the upcoming arrival of BLANK'S birth. (
Meanwhile 3 gift registry slips fall out of envelope including target, babies
r us, and baby depot) This is a potluck so please bring a salad,
appetizer or meat dish. Please also bring a box of diapers. Hope
to see you there! ( Yea right)
So I am thinking, should I also bring some decorations, maybe
the cake too? Geez, I can not believe some people. Can you see everyone
arriving at the shower with arms FULL of gift, box of diapers, AND a potluck
My husband's older daughter, Jean, was expecting a baby, and
I decided I would host a shower. I had hosted her bridal shower, which
went very well. So well in fact, that I was very disappointed at how badly
she behaved throughout the planning of this new shower.
I guess I have the wrong idea about these things, but I think
it's rude to make demands on someone who is doing you a kindness. From the
moment I made known my decision to do this party, I regretted it. The
ONLY thing I wanted from her was 1) the addresses of her in-laws, and 2) a
date. That's all. What did she tell me? "I only
want one shower." Uh, okay. And, "I don't
want any men at this shower."
I got into my party planning mode, and began thinking of
neat menu ideas. I thought of creating a lovely tea party, and
mentally arranged my home to accommodate all the table settings that it would
entail. I looked through all my cookbooks for more ideas.
Then one day I went to see my husband's other daughter, Sally. She told me
about a conversation she'd had with Jean. Evidently, Jean was
agonizing about this shower. She was worried that there wouldn't be enough
parking at our house. It wasn't a problem for her bridal shower, and that
was in the winter! Why would it be a problem now? She whined to
Sally that she really wanted it in a restaurant. That was enough for
me. My husband, their father, has always been very proud of the
parties I host. I told him I was going to email Sally and tell her, all
things considered, it might be better if she took over the planning of this
party, that Jean would be happier if it were in a restaurant. DH really
wanted me to reconsider, but realized it was pointless when I told him this was
what she wanted.
I was still handing the cake, since I knew a very good baker,
as well as the invitations. Sally sent me the names and addresses, AND the
inserts from the shop where she was registered. Those, I threw into the
circular file them moment I got them. She was positively ballistic over
the phone, screaming HOW WILL PEOPLE KNOW WHERE TO BUY ANYTHING?!?!?
By now, I was so sick of the whole thing, I wanted to boycott the whole affair
completely. I now have nothing whatsoever to do with showers
at all. I have since learned that in other countries they are unheard of,
that it is tasteless to host a party which sole purpose is to extract loot from
After dating for a few months, my 26-year old brother
“Chip” moved in with his 18-year old girlfriend “Cindy”. A few
months later, he proudly announced that she was pregnant. My family and I
were shocked and a little fearful, as Chip may mean well, but he isn’t what
you would call parent material. Nevertheless, we all wished him well.
A few months later, Chip called my mom and asked her if she
could help with a shower that Cindy’s sister was throwing. My mom said
OK and offered to print up the invites. Later that day, she was greeted to
an email listing the NINETY people they wanted to invite. Even more
impressive was the info for three different registries that they wanted printed
right on the invites. All three registries were comprised of very high-end
items, such as a $400 crib, $350 stroller, etc. I called Chip to let him
know that having a registry was fine, but that that info did not belong even
with the invite, never mind on it. Chip responded that I was full of it
and that he had spoken to several girls at his work and they all agreed “that
was how it was done”. Chip then called our mother to comment how I must
be jealous of all the gifts he was going to get, as why else would I lie about
putting the info on the invites? Needless to say, I did not attend his
My mom called to tell me that my second cousin, Michelle, was
having a baby shower on Sunday at Aunt Karen's house (Michelle's
grandmother) from 3pm to 5pm and she was having a boy. I figured I
would go but I was a little pissed that I was not sent an invitation, my
mom's invitation was addressed to both of us. I was even more pissed when
I found out that my sister Tina received an invitation MAILED DIRECTLY
TO HER HOME. I am 39 and single but I own my own home. I should
have stayed home but I did want to see other cousins that I knew would be at the
My mom called me Sunday morning to tell me she forgot to
tell me that we were supposed to RSVP. I told her that if they had sent me
an invitation of my very own I would have seen to note the RSVP and I would
have. My mom said she mentioned this to Aunt Karen when she had
RSVP'd. Aunt Karen said she didn't have my address. My mom told
her that it was in the phone book (not to mention Aunt Karen could have
called her to ask). Aunt Karen said she didn't think to look in
the phone book because there was a period when my address wasn't in there...NOT
TRUE! Because I do have a land line my address has always been in the
phone book. There was one small period (9 months) after I separated
from my husband and lived in an apartment (before I bought my
condo) when it was in between book printings. I have lived in the
condo 5 years as of September and it has been in the phone book all that
I have decided this is the last shower or wedding I will ever
attend if I do not receive a personally addressed invitation to my home (not
parent's) address. Isn't the rule of etiquette that you should
send a separate invitation to any child over the age of 21 that does not live
with their parents? I haven't lived with my parents since I was 18!
Anyway...I took my return address labels and some 3x5 cards.
I put my label on the card and wrote in my phone number. I handed them to
Aunt Karen and cousin Lisa (my first cousin/Michelle's mom) at the baby
shower. Aunt Karen said since she only had my cell phone number
in her address book she didn't think I had a land line so I wouldn't be in the
phone book. Flawed logic! Also, now that I think of it I
don't think that I ever received a thank you note from Michelle for her wedding
present which was last August (a year and a month ago). Thank you notes
are supposed to be sent out within a year of the wedding. Do you think she
sent it to my parent's house and they forgot to tell me?
I received a baby shower invitation recently. Enclosed
in the invitation was one of those store-issued registry cards, which reads:
“Baby’s registered at Bullseye* and Bullseye.com*.
But what if Baby’s picky? Better get a gift receipt.”
Hold on. BUT WHAT IF BABY’S PICKY???? Last I
checked, newborns didn’t ask for much except regular feedings, clean diapers,
and lots of cuddling. And besides, the whole point of a registry is so the
parents-to-be can be as choosy as they like about which make, model, and color
of everything they receive! If you don’t want it, don’t register for
it! This smacks of the “all I really want is the cash but I can’t come
right out and tell you so I’ll just return your gift the first chance I get”
tackiness we’ve read about so many, many times on Etiquette Hell. The
fact that large companies are endorsing this type of behavior is, while
unsurprising, rather sad.
Guess I’ll just get “Baby” a gift certificate….
My friend and his wife were recently married. The wife
is from a well-to-do family, while my friend comes from a more financially
modest background. The newlyweds are expecting a child very soon.
She has a child from a previous relationship; the family said "so
what" and decided to hold a baby shower anyway. I think it's very nice--it
is, after all, their first child together. I know tradition used to
dictate a shower be held for just the first child, but times are changing.
My friend called his mother and said, "How much can you contribute to the
shower?" His mother said she'd give $200. Where we live, this
is a goodly sum of money with which to plan a baby shower. Typically, a
family member holds the shower at their home and everyone brings a dish to pass
along with a gift, and a good time is had by all. Or someone will have
access to a community room at a condo or apartment complex, and the group will
gather there. My friend said to his mother, "Well, when I talked to
you before, you said you'd give us $500." My friend's mother said,
"Well, if that's what I said, then that's what I'll give you."
Even though the mother wasn't sure that's exactly what had happened, she was
prepared to stand by it.
The new wife got on the phone at that point and hollered at
her mother-in-law about how cheap she was, and that she hadn't done anything to
help with their wedding (untrue, the mother-in-law gave a substantial amount of
money to help pay for the reception and also hosted the rehearsal dinner, even
though the bridezilla-wife called all the shots on it), and that she wasn't
giving enough money to help with this baby shower, which was already being
arranged to be held at an expensive banquet hall complete with expensive
catering, etc. It has been three weeks, and the bridezilla-wife has
not apologized, and my friend's mother feels shell-shocked and wondering what in
the world she did wrong to deserve such a tongue-lashing. My friend hasn't
spoken to his mother either. I think it's the ultimate in tacky to call someone
and tell them how much they have to contribute to a party, when they're not
invited to help plan the party. It's very much as if the newlywed expectant
bridezilla wife from hell decided that she was going to have a party, and other
people were going to pay for it, and if they didn't comply, then they were just
I'm sure whatever gift I bring will not be up to the
wife-momzilla's standards, and if I give a certificate to a store where she's
registered, it won't be a big enough amount. I'm debating whether or not
to find an excuse to not attend (prior commitment, etc) because I really don't
like my friend's new wife. I'm happy for him that he's married and has a child
on the way, but I think his wife's behavior is deplorable.
My husband’s step-sister baby was due four months before my
husband and I were due. About a month before her due date, a shower was
being thrown for her. I had only met the step-sister twice prior to the
shower. I am still not sure who the hostess was as I never received an
actual invitation, just a phone call from the Grandmother-to-Be, my husband’s
step-mother. As my husband and I live about 2 ½ hours away and not having
an easy pregnancy at all, we decided that to attend the shower, we would have to
go down the Friday night prior to the shower and stay with husband’s family.
(I get along very well with my husband’s father and step-mother and consider
step-mother to be my mother-in-law as my husband’s mother is deceased.)
I called my MIL a few weeks before the shower to confirm the time and ask for
gift ideas. I then went to the store and picked out a few gifts for the
baby and also a few things just for mom, i.e. facial mask, foot lotion, etc.
I even searched for and found wrapping paper to match the nursery décor as I
was told the wrapping paper would be carefully saved to line the nursery dresser
The weekend of the shower comes around and my husband and I
make the drive the night before. The next day, I get up and get ready for
the shower. I ride with my MIL to the shower. On the way there, she
told me she had a great idea for the shower and I could use it at mine as well.
Her idea? At the end of the shower, her daughter was to stand up and give
a verbal thank you to all the guests for attending and the gifts, that a written
Thank You note would be too much work for a new mom! I was shocked and
stated that if I had a baby shower (seeing as I wouldn’t be throwing one for
myself) that I would still do Thank You notes as I had been raised that it was
the proper thing to do. MIL then informed me that written thank you notes
were passé and I would have too much to do with the baby to write them.
Silly story contributor! Of course thank
you notes are passé in Gimme Pig World! You're supposed to be grovelingly
appreciative of having been given the opportunity to work at a job and spend
your money on shower gifts with no expectation of ever receiving
gratitude. Get with the program, girl! That's how it done in Gimme
We arrive at the shower a bit early as MIL needs to help set
up. I pitched in to put out the food, set up chairs, etc. The
Mom-to-Be never acknowledged my presence there, not even with a hello, but I
figured it was due to everyone scurrying around trying to get things ready.
After the shower, the ONE verbal Thank You was given to the entire room of about
50 guests then clean-up began. I went up to the Mom-to-Be and thanked her
for having me, congratulated her on her upcoming girl, and complimented her on a
few of her gifts. She did thank me for coming the distance to attend the
shower. She never did send out Thank You notes.
Two months later, due to complications, I gave birth to my
daughter. She arrived 12 weeks early. We were totally unprepared and
spent most of our free time visiting our baby in the NICU. A friend threw
us a baby shower a few weeks after the baby came home from the hospital when
things had settled down a bit. (Caring for a preemie, in the hospital or
at home, takes up a lot of time!) Said step-sister-in-law was mailed an
invitation. No RSVP and she did not attend the shower as she was too busy
with her baby. Understandable. But, I did manage to send written
thank you notes to all who attended the shower, gave or sent gifts, and all who
brought us food during the hospital ordeal. I didn’t have a lot of free
time, but I couldn’t NOT send out thank you notes.
This was pretty recent, but I couldn't help but post this to
let others know what NOT to do! Several months ago I received an
invitation in the mail to my father's cousins' baby shower. Right off there are 3
major problems: 1) she spelled my name wrong, 2) I live 14 hours away, and
3) no one knew she was pregnant! My mother and my aunt decide that they will
attend and the three of us will go in together on a gift (well over $200, most
expensive thing on all THREE of her registries).
About a week before the shower my aunt decides she can't go
because of her health. My mother and father are still planning on going, but had
the gift delivered and sent a card to the cousin just to be on the safe side (my
mother has scary intuition). Sure enough, the day before the shower my mother is
admitted to the hospital needing emergency surgery. My father, focusing on my
mother and trying to make sure that my grandmother is taken care of (my mother
being her main help) forgets to call his aunt and let her know they can't make
Nine days after the shower my aunt gets a nasty phone call
from my great aunt. How dare we not attend the shower or even send a gift! Aunt
protests that she said she could not be there and my mother was in the hospital,
and that I had never planned on being there and they knew that, BUT a
gift was most definitely sent. Then she calls my father and bawls him out as
well. He calmly explained what had happened and that they had sent the gift and
card directly to his cousin two weeks before, just not through her, but to
please not discuss this with my mother as she is still feeling poorly.
It was only at this point that anyone thought to ask what my
great aunt, her daughters and daughter in law got me for my baby shower two
years before--a $30 gift card two months after my daughter was born and they
RSVP'd yes to the shower and then did not show--no phone calls or
hospitalizations to excuse them either!
I don't care about the gift from them, if I did I would have
spent far less on my cousin, who I am hoping is clueless about her mother's
actions. I just want people to realize that an invitation does not automatically
mean a gift and that if the person lives more than a few hours away then they
should not receive an invitation!
I was invited to the baby shower of a co-worker of mine and my
husbands. I wouldn't call the mother to be a friend, a close acquaintance.
First, the baby shower was for her 2nd child. Okay, that's
fine. I understand a little bit - it's a second marriage, first child for mom to
be and her 2nd husband.
Arrive at the shower just fine, get seated and the first thing
the 'hostess' does is hand everyone a small sheet of blank paper. She asks all
attendees to write their name and address on it. Okay, maybe I'm not up on all
the baby shower games. Then a few minutes later, the hostess tells the group
that everyone is addressing... wait for it.. their own thank you notes. Oh yes,
I have the honor of filling out part of my thank you note. She explains that the
mom to be will be much to busy with the new baby (who is already born at that
point) to fill out addresses to thank you cards.
Hoo-kay. I shrug that one off and dutifully fill out my name
and address. Just as I finish the zip code, another guest at the party - I think
some sort of relative to the mom to be, bellows at the top of her lungs, 'Heck,
why even do this, the mom to be can just thank everyone here.'
Some of the women in our church group hosted a baby shower for
another member of the group who was expecting her first child. The hostesses did
a lovely job and the shower was well-attended. It came time for the mom-to-be to
open the gifts and everyone watched and commented appreciatively while munching
on appetizers and passing the gifts around to admire.
Toward the end, the mom-to-be opened a very large gift which
was from one of the women in our church group, "Leigh". It turned out
to be the car seat she had registered for, a rather extravagant gift from a
person with whom she wasn't particularly close. The mom-to-be was suitably
impressed and thanked Leigh profusely for such a nice gift. Leigh then said,
loudly enough to carry over all the background noise, "Oh it's nothing. I
found it on sale at Wal-Mart so it only cost me $XX."
There was total silence in the room for several long seconds.
Fortunately, the mom-to-be, ever gracious, thanked her again and moved on to the
next gift. The rest of us gratefully went back to watching, noshing, and
Later, after all the gifts had been opened, five of us were
standing around chatting in a group which included Leigh. I don't remember what
in the conversation precipitated this comment, but Leigh felt the need to
mention again how she couldn't believe what a good deal she had gotten on that
car seat and started to go into an exact breakdown of the discount.
Simultaneously, two of the women in our group turned around and started to pick
up more hors d'oeuvre from the dining room table, and another woman and I turned
toward each other as if we were going to leave the group and have a private
conversation. Before she could finish her sentence, Leigh was suddenly talking
to no one. I guess each of us thought at least one other person might stick
around to hear her painfully tacky gloating.
There seems to be a real fondness at the moment for this
little poem to appear on baby Shower invites:
For Naptime and PlayTime and Feeding
There are so many things that XXX will be needing
Let's Get Together with our mum to be
And shower her with gifts because baby makes 3.
Now I don't approve of that generally because the focus is on
the presents, not the impending joyous arrival but I recently got it on a card
from a mum-to-be who was hosting HER OWN SHOWER. And then I found
out it was the SECOND shower she was hosting for herself - she had one in her
hometown and one where we now live. Gimme gimme gimme.
I attended a baby shower for a “step-relative”. I
brought a beautiful gift and I was the perfect guest. I later found out
that this young woman had three showers; one hosted by her sister, one hosted by
her mother-in-law, and one hosted by her co-workers. The mother-in-law
comes from a huge family so obviously she wanted her daughter -in -law to profit
from this connection. She even invited her four ex-sisters- in-law, who
would have never even wanted to be seen in the same room as this woman. Why
would anyone need three baby showers? Gift grab, pure and simple.
Next time I find out someone is having multiple showers, I am going to down-size
my spending and let the greedy little honoree figure it out for herself.
P.S. Same subject had four or five wedding showers. I should have seen it
Even as I type this story, I feel like no one will believe it.
I still can't believe it myself and I witnessed it personally.
My sister, "Emily" had a baby right after she
graduated high school. She wasn't living with our mother at the time, so Mom
hosted the baby shower for her. It was rather low-key with about a dozen people
invited, which were mostly Emily's friends from school, plus family members. We
were all having a good time until Emily's friend "Monica" and her
sister showed up.
Monica and her sister had a girl with them that no one knew
who was around 17 to 19 years old. (I mention her age merely because she should
have known better. Well, even a child should have known better, but I digress.)
Monica pulled my mother aside and whispered an apology. She said that this girl,
"Stacy", was a friend of her sister's who had been dropped off at
Monica's house for a visit earlier in the day. No one had come to pick her up at
the agreed-upon time. Since Stacy lived so far away and they were already late
because of waiting for the ride that never came, Monica had brought her along,
not knowing what else to do with her. My mother just smiled pleasantly and said,
"The more the merrier and a chance to meet a new friend!" Little did
Stacy remained silent, sitting in a chair in the corner,
clutching a duffle bag to her chest during the party. My sister's friends and
the family tried to draw her out of her shell but she had very little to say.
She blended into the wall so much that no one noticed when she disappeared.
A while later, I was going into the hall closet to fetch
something from my coat pocket when I heard water running upstairs. I whispered
to my mother about it, figuring that one of the children at the party might have
gone upstairs and turned on a faucet. Everyone was supposed to be using the
downstairs bathroom, so it seemed odd, but kids can be mischievous and I
couldn't think of any other explanation off-hand.
My mother went upstairs and came down a minute or so later
with her eyes bugging from their sockets. "It's Stacy," she muttered
to me. "She's up there taking a SHOWER."
"She's WHAT?" I said, thinking I must have misheard.
"She's in the shower," my mother repeated, shaking
her head. "I walked into the bathroom because the door was ajar and there
she was. She just poked her head around the curtain and looked at me. I said
'Oh, excuse me' and left because I just... I didn't know what to say."
"Emily..." I said, thinking she must have allowed
this total stranger to shower in the middle of her party for some unknown
reason. Perhaps the girl had had some sort of accident... I approached my sister
when I could get her away for a moment and asked her about the girl upstairs
bathing. Her jaw dropped and then she burst into laughter. Stacy had said
nothing to her. We decided just to keep quiet about it rather than making a
scene and go on with the party.
Stacy came back downstairs a while later, resumed her chair
and waited until Monica was ready to leave. Without a word, she followed Monica
out the door, never to be seen nor heard of again.
When we went up to the bathroom after everyone had left, we
found my mother's makeup scattered over the counter top and her toothbrush
suspiciously damp. Nothing was missing, but everything had been used. We ended
up throwing away a lot of expensive cosmetics and Mom used her travel toothbrush
until she could get to the store for a new one. I just can't imagine someone
slipping away, going upstairs and looking around until they found a bathroom and
then deciding it was a great opportunity to take a quick shower.
To this day, no one else knows about it, but I'm sure they all
wonder why we laugh when we look at the shower pictures and see Stacy sitting in
the back of the room, clutching that big bag.
This isn’t quite a faux pas, but it was funny.
A coworker of mine, “Kate”, was expecting her first child.
Our workplace was almost entirely young women so we decided to throw her a
small, informal baby shower in addition to the one given by her mother (none of
us really knew her family, anyway). We closed early on Thursdays so it was
scheduled for a Thursday afternoon about six weeks before the baby was due, at
the nearby home of one of our supervisors.
That Thursday, we all scrambled to get our work done and get
the place cleaned up on time before our boss found an extra project to keep us
there all afternoon. We were almost ready to go when Kate came out of the
bathroom and said calmly, “I think my water just broke. Could someone
give me a ride to the hospital?”
Shock (after all, this was the *day of* the baby shower and
she wasn’t due for a month and a half!), and then panic. Teresa threw
Kate into her car and took off for the nearest hospital. The rest of us
finished cleaning, gathered up the gifts and snacks we had brought for the party
afterwards, and went home. Another coworker later collected all the gifts
and took them to Kate’s house in person, since most of us had gotten her
useful items from her registry list.
We ended up setting a new date for three months later and the
baby got to go to his own shower!
Anyway, my fiancé and I were happy to hear in July of 2007
that his older sister (We'll call her "Maggie") was pregnant with her
first baby. We were so ecstatic that Maggie and I decided we would even do some
baby shopping together. Maggie and I were very close, or so I thought... I
hadn't realized that she'd been using me and her brother and I would later find
Big mistake #1: Maggie requested that my fiancé and I
go together and buy her a VERY expensive crib that we could not afford (she knew
this as I had just been laid off of work and so her brother was the only one who
had a job). We suggested we'd get it for her for Christmas to which she replied:
"NO! This crib is for the BABY! You can't get it for ME for
Christmas!" We were so appalled by this that we didn't buy her the crib or
a Christmas present at all. (Ironically, her mom bought the crib for her for
As the year went on my fiancé came with me to see my family
for Christmas. Over Christmas he and I had a falling out with Maggie because we
were both tired of her using us. When we told her that we were tired of being
invited to her house to CLEAN and also instructed to BRING OUR OWN FOOD, she
threw a hissy fit. It would have been fine had she done it once, or even twice,
but she did this EVERY weekend! It was a huge argument with several abusive
e-mails from her and my fiancé was very angry. At that time we found out about
big mistake #2, Maggie was planning her own baby shower!
Big Mistake 3#: A few days after the e-mails had been
sent I received another e-mail from Maggie requesting my address. I prompted why
and got a reply of "I really want my brother there and he won't come unless
you do." My reply "You do realize that it's RUDE to invite someone to
a baby shower just so someone else will go, right?" Her response
"Well, I was also thinking that this could be a way for you and I to start
over." So I gave her my address.
Big Mistake #4: Maggie decided to use her father for
everything including painting the baby's room, moving the washer, rearranging
furniture and so forth. Her husband (we'll call him "Joe") was there
every single time her dad came over to do something for the baby! I don't know
why Joe was allowed to sit on his butt instead of doing the things needed for
HIS child. My fiancé felt so bad for his dad (who would always hear "Well,
if you REALLY love me then you'll do it!") that he went along with his dad
on one of these excursions...
This was big mistake #5: Maggie began to send my fiancé
text messages fussing at him on his way to her house to help paint the nursery.
My fiancé was so angry that he actually called her and told her to stuff it or
he would force his father to turn around and they could paint the baby's room.
Her response "I'm PREGNANT and Joe has been dealing with it all
month!" My fiancé's response "Well HE got you pregnant, I did
Big Mistake #6: At Maggie's baby shower (remember, we
were supposed to be working things out) I was CLEARLY not welcome. She did not
speak to me except to inform me that about 30 people were expected and since
there wasn't enough seating (or space) us "kids" would have to sit in
the floor. I have a knee problem which is not fixable and I'm not supposed to
sit in the floor! She knew this as I was on crutches for a month and was at her
house CLEANING for all of those weekends! Not to mention, I had to miss MY
niece's birthday party for this baby shower!
Big Mistake #7: My fiancé and I decided to go visit my
family for Spring Break and his sister was livid because "What if the baby
is born while you're down there? You HAVE to be there when the baby is
born!" Why does he need to be there? We'd planned this trip BEFORE she got
pregnant! He flat out told her he'd had enough of her and the baby nonsense and
when that baby was born he could visit her ANY TIME! So, we went on vacation.
I'm assuming as payback we were not informed of the baby's birth until my fiancé's
mom called us TWO hours after the baby had been born! She had forgotten but had
managed to call my fiancé's half sisters and Maggie's best friend! My fiancé
was so angry! Then at about midnight, Maggie calls and informs us of the child's
birth. My fiancé tells her that he had already been informed and that we were
sleeping. I was angry to be able to hear Maggie's response "Who the h*ll
can sleep when a baby has just been born?!" Well, we'd been awake since
you'd been induced and NEVER got a call about what was going on! We were utterly
Since then, my contact with my future SIL has been VERY
limited. We talk every once in awhile, but otherwise, we don't have much
contact. I have yet to be able to visit her and the new baby as I have yet to be
invited. But hey, as long she doesn't decide to have a SECOND one, I'll be
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